Posted originally on the CTH on November 28, 2024 | Sundance

Having studied the intersections of social connections, culture, politics and DC systems, and after a long careful review of our current state of being, I have come to a conclusion that sets the conversation around the Thanksgiving dinner table in 2024.

I earnestly believe that in the USA, on a social and political level, there are two group assemblies in a transitional period of dynamic opposition to each other.

♦ Those who pretend.
♦ Those who do not pretend.

There are republicans and democrats who pretend, and there are democrats and republicans who do not pretend.

My contention is that what we call “MAGA” is a larger assembly of the non-pretending group. Hence, the cross-party/cross-cultural cross-over, and what is often called the division in our nation.

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Derk

 November 28, 2024 7:57 pm

I totally agree with the coming together of a broader coalition that includes everyone across America, all “divisions” have come together under what President Trump has called a “Common Sense” platform. That we are truly all “Americans”.

This includes the MAGA crowd that had success in 2016, which could very well have been a much larger group, if not for the vote counting issues. That and the Covid weapon that that was deployed against not only the USA, but the world. It was not only an agent of death but an economy destroyer as well.

My thinking now is that President Trump has had the best of intentions, always, but may have not been completely aware of the massive task he undertook back 2016. That by simply Making America Great Again was not sufficient, it is a worldwide issue that also is huge and will take cooperation across the globe. And we are seeing this in recent elections where nationalistic candidates for the highest office of their respective nations around the globe are being voted into power.

As Sundance once pointed out, the battlefield is now contested in the economic field more so than actually invading another country. Fought with trades, sanctions, tariffs etc. Our carrier groups are now specific people groups being deployed, while yes, military backing is a must. But the carrier groups of old can now be destroyed anywhere they are positioned and are now indefensible as demonstrated recently by Russia and the “Hazel” missile. Battalions can be deployed to maintain areas yes,but can also be wiped out in a number of ways.

I believe also that Putin has some “common sense” in him, he has shown restraint as America seems to have actually deserved the moniker of the “Great Satan’. Not the citizens themselves either here and elsewhere, but the governments and those who are profiting off death all around the world.

So, maybe now the President is allowing some concessions to be made, is trading off a few things here and there, such as his stance on abortion (which I actually don’t know what it is to be perfectly honest), bringing in the masses who truly want to be free to live and be left alone to pursue their lives. Maybe some concessions in his staffing choices here and there, and not a sudden culling of all the evil all at once, but he is definitely making strides towards that goal.

It does require a civil obedience for the greater good of society, which means there are laws that absolutely need to be enforced. And not “laws for thee but not for me”. There must be justice. There must be truth. There must be accountability.

Yes, I sound like a “utopian” proclaimer, a PeaceNik ( I do reside in California :D). But I do love Rodney King’s “Why can’t we all just get along”. The human condition at times is the most beautiful thing to behold, and yet can be the ugliest, most disgusting, destructive and vile of being out there. There are wolves, who despise the sheep, as has been forever. The seven deadly sins are abundant. They have tried to kill our President several times. They have succeeded as in the case of Prime Minister Abe of Japan, and many others. President Trump is still standing, as he will even unto death.

My hope is that the sheep are gathering together in too huge of numbers that the wolves are backed into the sea and banished forever. One of the teachings I heard back in Bible School was, “Revival (a turning back towards God) most notably throughout history, and as recorded in the Bible, comes through either “desperation” or desolation”.

That we are actually becoming “woke”. Or as Sundance puts it, realists.

We are obviously in desperation mode, as many are turning toward a more common-sense approach which is drawing many. This can hopefully stem the tide as we are quickly approaching that “desolation” stage. Total destruction looms on the horizon. But it appears the “divisions” are now gathering together across all creeds, races, nations and religions for that matter, to actually build a better world. We should be making plans to reach Mars instead of destroying our fellow human beings and buying a mega yacht as a reward.

Long ramble, but my feeling is that President Trump has got this, that maybe Putin as well of some other leaders are gaining a renewed sanity. There are some places such as the Middle East it seems, who still want to kill anyone not like them. I hope we don’t fall into that same category.

It is “Complicated Business Folks”, but I believe Mr. Trump has gained even more wisdom and discernment over the past 4 years. Everything is connected, much as in the “Butterfly Effect”, and it will take a worldwide coalition much as the one came together here in the USA on November 5th. As the election unfolded and victory declared that evening, I felt much like I did when watching the moon landing. That this result is going to have a long and far-reaching impact the world over. May it be so.

As always Sundance, thank you for this Refuge. I have learned so much I can never thank you, and all of you others, in full.

Last edited 11 hours ago by Derk