Musk vs Trump Feud


Posted originally on Jun 6, 2025 by Martin Armstrong 

Elon Musk Blows up Trump

COMMENT: OK. I do not know how Socrates does it, but you said at the WEC that Trump’s term would be divided in half. You saw it working first and then encountered real trouble in the second half. You even hinted that he might not finish the term. Do you have any updates on that comment?

PAK

ANSWER: This blow-up between Donald Trump and Elon Musk is truly a disaster since Musk was Trump’s right-hand man. Musk has spent the past week attacking the GOP’s tax-cut bill just as Trump was pushing for its passage. This is becoming very confusing behind the curtain for many. The GOP was counting on both men. This appears to be what the computer has been warning about, suggesting that it did not see clear sailing for Trump during his 4-year term.

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In all fairness, I am not sure what Musk expected. To put out this comment seems to be boring your bridges entirely, and this accomplishes nothing. Musk responded to Trump’s decision to cut subsidies for EVs but not for fossil fuels. He posted, “Whatever,” followed by, “Keep the EV/solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil & gas subsidies are touched (very unfair!!), but ditch the MOUNTAIN of DISGUSTING PORK in the bill.” This does create the image of a potential conflict of interest.

This feud has escalated to insults ranging from pending legislation, why Musk left the White House, and how Trump may owe the fact he’s there at all to Musk’s millions. Trump immediately threatened Musk’s contracts, and Musk threatened to kneecap a key tool of the US space program. Musk then even suggested Trump should be impeached for a third time. You do not air your dirty laundry in public. I am surprised by Musk’s actions. This has implications for the financial markets.

Musk has lambasted the GOP bill and said that it will push the national debt close to $40 trillion as a budget-busting “abomination.” Trump, who said he’s “disappointed” by Musk’s sniping, claimed the end of electric-vehicle tax credits (and Tesla’s coming $1.2 billion loss as a result) is what drove his former adjutant away. “Such ingratitude,” Musk retorted. “Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House, and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.”

This is a blow to the future that the computer has targeted. I have dealt with Washington, and Musk seems to be naive. The only way to make serious reform regarding the deficits and debt is through political reform, and this is not the way to achieve that. He has just made himself toxic in the eyes of the GOP.

Epstein Ornament

The comment that the reason the Epstein files are not released is because Trump is in them is going too far. The reason those files have not been released is that all the BS that people think those who went to the island are pedophiles is absurd. I was warned when dealing with Wall Street decades ago:

BE CAREFUL, THEY USE GOOD-LOOKING GIRLS TO GET INTO YOUR OPERATION.

Epstein’s operation was blackmail. They did not use six-year-olds. That would be a pedophile. Using a 17-year-old, which is legal outside the USA since we arbitrarily have the highest age, was for entrapment. The question they are trying to find out is whether the people on the list were blackmailed, but by whom and for what purpose? Did Bill Gates become involved with Epstein to set someone up, allowing Gates to apply pressure? That is just speculation. His wife divorces him over Epstein, but why? Who was Epstein working for?

The circumstances around Jeffrey Epstein’s controversial 2007 plea deal in Florida remain heavily scrutinized, and the question remains unanswered whether the case was explicitly dropped because prosecutor Alexander Acosta claimed Epstein “worked for intelligence.” That remains hanging out there unexplained.

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I have said before that Epstein was creating a sophisticated operation for blackmail. Wall Street used Elliot Spitzer to take down AIG head Hank Greenberg because he refused to allow AIG to issue guarantees for Goldman Sachs’ mortgage-backed securities. They used Elliot Spitzer as the DA of NY to remove Hank Greenberg from AIG, which opened the door for the 2007-2009 Crash. Removing Hank Greenberg made the whole Mortgage-Backed CDO Lending possible and the collapse of the Great Financial Crisis. Spitzer was fed info I believe to remove Greenberg by Goldman Sachs. It was Goldman who then sold the idea to AIG when Greenberg was removed. 

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Spitzer was just a pawn. He thought he was really cleaning up Wall Street. Then, when Spitzer turned on Wall Street, guess what? The Patriot Act ordering banks to report anything suspicious turned up checks Spitzer wrote to a hooker. So the Terrorist laws were then used to get rid of Spitzer to save Wall Street Investment Bankers.

Do you also remember the former head of the IMF, who also stood in the way of the agenda to remove countries from SWIFT if they did not hand over all people with accounts? Dominique Strauss-Kahn became a target when he was the IMF chief and began to comment critically on the role of the world financial system. I was personally invited to Washington, where Edmond Safra of Republic National Bank paid for the IMF dinner that rented the entire National Gallery. I was invited to demonstrate to me how the NY Investment bankers had the IMF in their pocket.

Strauss-Kahn was conveniently sent a maid to create a sex scandal to shut him up when he saw the corruption in the IMF. They removed him under false accusations and cleared the way for the IMF to become a tool of the bankers and the Neocons. That is how the whole Long-Term Capital Management crisis developed because they bribed the IMF to keep the loans going to Russia so they could buy their bonds by paying outrageous amounts of money. 

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Anna Chapman was a Russian Spy caught in New York City. She was swapped for American spies in 2010 and made headlines in New York. She was stunningly beautiful as well as stunningly successful. Well, if you are going to betray secrets, this is far better than the rubber hose treatment. Anna showed up in Ukraine to train with the soldiers leading the rebellion. She has become known as Vladimir Putin’s weapon of mass distraction.

Epstein’s targets were not a bunch of friends from the local pub. They were all powerful people. Not the type that, if you were into 17-year-olds vs 23-year-olds, which I doubt most middle-aged men would know the difference just looking at them, raises serious questions of blackmail.

Take Prince Andrew, whose life has been destroyed. Did you know that had he had sex with that girl in London, it would be legal? From the age of 16, a person is considered to be able to give consent to all sexual activity with other people aged 16 or over. The Legal age is 16 in most countries. So why did Epstein create an island in the USA where the legal age is the highest?  Something is just not right.

Maxwell Ghislaine

Maxwell is in prison for soliciting girls, but again, there were no customers on the list. Why? Her father was part of the club who conveniently fell off his yacht and drowned just in time. The widely held understanding of the events surrounding Robert Maxwell’s death in 1991 is well known.

The Fraud: By the time of his death on November 5, 1991, Maxwell was deeply implicated in massive financial fraud that involved the Club. He had secretly plundered hundreds of millions of pounds from the pension funds of his own companies (including Mirror Group Newspapers and Maxwell Communications Corporation) to prop up his crumbling empire, cover personal debts, and maintain his lavish lifestyle, as they always say.

He was under intense scrutiny, but had not yet been formally charged or summoned to court for fraud at the moment he died. Investigations by banks, auditors, and regulators were accelerating rapidly, and the severe financial irregularities were becoming impossible to hide. He was facing imminent exposure. Key lenders (like banks) were demanding repayments he couldn’t meet, and the true state of his companies’ finances and the missing pension funds were about to become public knowledge. This would inevitably have led to formal legal action, including potential criminal charges and summons.

 On November 5, 1991, Maxwell’s body was found floating in the Atlantic Ocean near his luxury yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, off the Canary Islands. He had last been seen on deck the night before. The official inquest concluded his death was accidental (drowning, likely due to a heart attack or stroke, causing him to fall overboard). This was met with significant skepticism. Given the scale of the fraud about to explode and the powerful enemies he had made (including intelligence agencies he allegedly worked for/with, angry investors, and pensioners), he either committed suicide to avoid disgrace, bankruptcy, and prison. Or, he was murdered by the Club.

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Maxwell was at the epicenter of a massive, unfolding fraud scandal involving stolen pension funds. His right-hand man was Bill Browder, who then went into partnership with Edmond Safra and lost perhaps 90%, as the FT reported. The fund collapsed by $4 billion to at best $60 million, and HSBC stopped even providing net asset values. Browder’s name does not appear on Epstein’s list.

Once Again Elon Musk Begins a Strategic Retreat


Posted originally on CTH on June 5, 2025 | Sundance 

Phone calls from the Tesla Board, Peter Thiel and especially Larry Ellison, tend to change things.

Remember, Bill Ackman is the billionaire who constructed the SPARC (special purpose acquisition rights company) to save Elon Musk and Twitter financially, before Larry Ellison (Oracle) stepped in.

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Elon Musk also walked back from his threat to decommission the Dragon spacecraft {link}.

Sea Island hit the MAGA anvil, but it didn’t split.

They’ll be back.

President Trump Says Musk “Just Went Crazy” – as World’s Richest Man Continues Public Meltdown, Demands Impeachment and Replacement with JD Vance


Posted originally on CTH on June 5, 2025 | Sundance

It was always going to be thus. However, some who do not carry the mental fortitude to withstand the TRUTH, will proclaim they are witnessing some pre-scripted game of chess or something, where the Trump -v- Musk battle is coordinated. It is not.

President Trump delivers some further consideration about Elon Musk from his perspective.

Musk responds by accusing President Trump of being in the “Epstein files” and later calls for his impeachment and replacement with JD Vance.

If you are a long(ish) time reader of CTH, what we are witnessing is exactly what we said we would see unfold. And it is really good to see it happening now. I was not looking forward to this battle as the 2026 midterms came around, and I am thankful to our loving God for delivering it now.

The Musk, Thiel, Sacks, Andreeson et al operation cannot succeed without: (A) a distracted President Trump not seeing their schemes; and (B) without JD Vance, who they positioned for installation of their interests.

Watch JD Vance in this dynamic through the prism that Vance is on team “Tech Bros.” That will be a big tell.

Remember, ultimately the goal is for the removal of President Trump no matter what that takes; and yes, the billionaire tech bros are willing to use their financial resources to upend the 2026 midterm election in order to achieve their larger objective, control retention over policy.

Do not allow yourself time for dark imaginings, just see things through the clarity of knowing their agenda.

 

President Trump Friction with Elon Musk Widens Political Cleaving


Posted originally on CTH on June 5, 2025 | Sundance

To understand the dynamic, it is necessary to remain elevated and unemotional as the confrontation takes place.

The U.S. Senate currently has two issues of great importance to President Trump within their upper chamber.  The first is the Big Beautiful Bill (a reconciliation spending and budget plan).  The second is Senate positioning on sanctions against Russia and support for Ukraine.  Both are of great importance when you consider the domestic and geopolitical ramifications.

President Trump wants the BBB structurally passed and doesn’t care about the nibbling on the edges or customary Christmas Tree decorations (special interest add-ons).  Trump wants the Term-1 tax cuts extended and the border security money, these are must haves.

On the Ukraine/Russia stuff, Trump basically wants the Senate to back away from doing anything that influences his leverage positions for a resolution he will construct.  However, President Trump knows the Senate fully supports the proxy war aspect to the conflict (he doesn’t).

Trump has remained relatively quiet on Ukraine-Russia because he doesn’t want to antagonize the Senate who will use their affirmative votes for BBB as leverage to maintain the proxy war and support Ukraine.  That’s the background on the BBB, Russia, Ukraine and Trump’s position.

Into this foray comes the always self-interested and short-sighted Elon Musk who -despite being an influence asset at times- has the most annoying habit of never considering the downstream consequences for his selfishness.

As Musk rails against the BBB, which took 14 months of work from the House to get across the line he runs the risk of collapsing the BBB in the senate.

The longer the BBB sits in the Senate and/or gets changed so much it will take forever to get through the House again; the longer Trump has to bite his tongue on solving the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Musk in his infinite selfishness, cannot see how he is doing real damage to Trump’s objective around Russia by stirring up opposition to the BBB.  Things were getting ugly yesterday and became more so today.

Steve Bannon does not learn about the story of Elon Musk having a physical confrontation with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent without Trump saying he wants to hit back against Musk.   The subsequent leak to Bannon is made, the story is told to the Dail Mail and Elon Musk is now facing the ire of a pissed off White House.

…[…]” Former Chief Strategist Steve Bannon told DailyMail.com that Musk’s turbulent time in the White House was marred when he physically ‘shoved’ 62-year-old Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent after he was confronted over wild promises to save the administration ‘a trillion dollars’. ‘Scott Bessent called him out and said, ‘You promised us a trillion dollars (in cuts), and now you’re at like $100 billion, and nobody can find anything, what are you doing?” the prominent MAGA figure revealed. ‘And that’s when Elon got physical. It’s a sore subject with him. ‘It wasn’t an argument; it was a physical confrontation. Elon basically shoved him.’”

The revelation of a confrontation between the pair was confirmed by White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt on Friday. (source)

Secretary of State Marco Rubio knows the strategic stakes here and there’s no love lost between Rubio and Musk after Elon told Rubio he wasn’t cutting enough people at the State Dept.

Keep in mind, Marco Rubio was chair of the senate select committee on intelligence and a Gang of Eight member since day one of the Russia-Ukraine conflict.  Rubio was briefed on all the covert activities being carried out in Ukraine by the CIA and Pentagon.  That’s why when Secretary of State Marco Rubio told media months ago that “Ukraine was a proxy war for the United States against Russia,” it was jaw-dropping.  If anyone would know the receipts, it’s the former Chair of the SSCI.

Both Marco Rubio and President Trump have been mostly silent and very measured in their comments about Russia after the Ukraine attack on the Russian nuclear-capable bombers.  Both Rubio and Trump know the Senate control of the BBB right now is bad timing for their solutions to the Ukraine-Russia war that the Senate will not like.

Quite simply, Elon Musk is screwing all that stuff up with his anti-BBB rants and unhinged ravings, that are supported and fueled by the same voices who want to diminish the power and influence of President Trump.

The issues are not just about the BBB, Elon Musk is mucking up the entire geopolitical agenda. WATCH:

“Racially Aggravated Public Order Offense” Frank Walker On Man Convicted Of Burning Quran


Posted originally on Rumble By Bannon’s War Room on: June 4, 2025, at 8:00 pm EST

WALKER: You Can See The Deep State Working In The Faithful Catholic Media


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BLOCKBUSTER: Grassley Oversight Unveils Disturbing Extent Of FBI’s Anti-Catholic Bias


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Sean Hannity Interviews FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino


Posted originally on CTH on June 4, 2025 | Sundance 

Don’t ask me to encapsulate this interview, I have not watched it yet (I will).  Feel free to provide cliff notes in the comment section if you have.

The appearance venue itself is enough to tell me the agenda.

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Tucker Carlson Interviews Former CIA Operations Officer John Kiriakou


Posted originally on CTH on June 4, 2025 | Sundance

An interesting interview between Tucker Carlson and Former CIA Counterintelligence Operations Officer John Kiriakou about being targeted by the CIA and FBI after telling the truth about CIA torture ops.

Kiriakou outlines how no U.S. President ever controls the CIA, and why politicians are seemingly afraid of holding them accountable. WATCH:

Chapters:

0:00 Introduction
1:41 Speaking Out Against the CIA’s Torture Program
7:20 Why the CIA Loved Obama
19:05 Why John Brennan Hated Kiriakou
23:23 The CIA’s Torture Techniques
32:01 How the FBI Tried to Bait Kiriakou Into Committing Espionage

42:48 The FBI’s Absurd Years-Long Investigation Into Kiriakou’s Life
59:13 The CIA Set Up to Get Kiriakou Thrown in Jail
1:04:34 The Major Issue With the Espionage Act
1:15:20 Kiriakou’s Experience in Prison
1:27:55 Did Any Elected Officials Defend Kiriakou?
1:32:38 The Dangerous Legal Precedent Set in Kiriakou’s Case Used Against Trump
1:34:10 The Clinton Judge Responsible for the Sentencing of Kiriakou, Assange, and More
1:39:29 Kiriakou’s Attempt to Get a Pardon From Joe Biden
1:42:00 Obama’s Drone Strikes Against American Citizens
1:43:38 Do CIA Employees Think They’re Doing Good?
1:47:10 Kiriakou’s Thoughts on the JFK and RFK Assassinations
1:53:12 The CIA’s MKUltra Program
1:57:59 Can the CIA Infect People With Cancer?
1:58:33 How 9-11 Turned the CIA Into a Paramilitary Group
2:08:03 Ronald Reagan Was Right About Government
2:09:57 The Waco Massacre
2:12:37 How CIA Employees Get So Rich
2:14:20 FBI Agent Apologizes to Kiriakou
2:16:51 How to Forgive Your Enemies

Thomas Massie Wants Elon Musk to Fund Primary Challengers to Trump Supporters in Congress


Posted originally on CTH on June 4, 2025 | Sundance

If you have walked the deep political weeds with us, you will likely remember the warnings.  Thomas Massie, Chip Roy, Rand Paul and other fellow republican travelers will join with Elon Musk and the alligator emoji network to oppose President Trump as soon as they can get back into the minority.

There is an intention behind this alignment of interests, which includes the Tech Bros (and Sea Island), that ends with a Vance-DeSantis promoted effort in 2028.  The only thing standing in their way is MAGA.  As a result, MAGA must be fractured.

The money center behind the strategy is working on a learning curve.  Having failed with prior launches of similar approaches (ref. DeSantis ’23/’24), they are now doing much more proactive seeding.

Yeah, I know, I know; some will say I’m crazy.  I’m not. I’ve watched this exact group’s constructs for over 14 years now.  All the data indicates this approach; the only unknown variables are the names of the political representatives who will participate.  Today, Thomas Massie is asking Elon Musk to fund primary challengers against the House republicans who support Donald Trump.

WASHINGTON DC – Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., said Elon Musk should fund primary challenges against almost every Republican who voted for President Donald Trump‘s “big, beautiful bill” last week.  “I don’t primary my colleagues, but I feel pretty good about him doing it,” Massie told Fox News Digital on Wednesday.

“There’s a few others that should be spared,” when asked to clarify if he meant all 215 House Republicans who supported the legislation. “But people want term limits, right? Elon can bring term limits.”

Musk came out against the massive Trump agenda bill that House Republicans passed last week. “I’m sorry, but I just can’t stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it,” Musk first posted.

It was followed by several posts on the national debt, and one that read, “In November next year, we fire all politicians who betrayed the American people.”

Massie said on Wednesday, “I just think he made one mistake when misstatement – he said take them out in November. I would take them out in primaries if I were Elon Musk.” (more)

Massie wants to give control of the House to Democrats.  With Democrats in control President Trump is then isolated, ridiculed, marginalized and targeted again.  This approach, the Massie strategists believe, diminishes President Trump, and weakens his endorsement power in the lead up to the ’28 contest.

Both Massie and Musk supported Ron DeSantis until Trump finished crushing him in 2024.  This is simply a replay.

The Sea Island GOPe are nothing if not predictable.

Team Cruz in ’16, became Team DeSantis in ’24, will be Team Vance in ’28.

Watch.