The current GCM’s are not even capable of forecasting present temperatures let alone future one!
This time, modeled global warming will make submerged permafrost melt faster, releasing methane faster.
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The current GCM’s are not even capable of forecasting present temperatures let alone future one!
This time, modeled global warming will make submerged permafrost melt faster, releasing methane faster.
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The basic question is why fix something that isn’t broken? And worse you had better fix what is really broken not something else. We know today that the GCM’s predictions of global temperature as not correlating with CO2 levels, in fact there are approaching .5 degrees C higher the the estimated global mean as published by NASA. This indicates that there is a problem in the logic programed into the GCM’s and that cast doubt on the impact of CO2 levels and their impact on climate. Without solid evidence that we know with very high probability how to forecast climate it would be insane to try to modify it! Richard has it 100% right there are way to many other issues that need to be solved that are real and not speculative.
by Judith Curry
Politically correct climate change orthodoxy has completely destroyed our ability to think rationally about the environment. – Richard Tol
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There is a lot more control over the past than the future as this chart shows! So its easy to make a current number look either hotter or colder than some previous number!
31 May 1947 – The Arctic is melting says scientist Los Angeles…
23 Feb 1940 – THE NORTH POLE. Is it Getting Warmer. | BUNDABER…
Papers Past — Auckland Star — 14 December 1940 — WARMER ARCTIC
The Arctic warmed 10 degrees from 1900 to 1950, and both poles were rapidly melting. This completely wrecks the scientists story about Mann-made Arctic warming, so they have simply tried to cover it up.
From: Tom Wigley <wigley@ucar.edu>
To: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: 1940s
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:25:38 -0600
Cc: Ben Santer <santer1@llnl.gov>It would be good to remove at least part of the 1940s blip, but we are still left with “why the blip”.
The simplest answer is usually best and in this case the misinformation is being driven by political appointees of Obama. There are in each department legal offices with the head a political appointment. These people are really political commissars there to make sure that the party line is followed.
WASHINGTON — The Arctic and its future are looking dimmer every year, a new federal report says.
Spring snow cover in Eurasia reached a record low in April. Arctic summer sea ice, while not setting a new record, continued a long-term, steady decline. And Greenland set a record in August for the least amount of sunlight reflected in that month, said the peer-reviewed report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and other agencies.
Report: Arctic losing more of signature snow – San Antonio Express-News
The fine scientists at NOAA are defrauding taxpayers with omissions of key information. Why did they refer only to April snow cover? Autumn snow cover just set an all-time record maximum.
Since CO2 hit 350 PPM, autumn/winter snow cover is increasing much faster than the decline in spring/summer snow cover.
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Kind of like what is the definition of “is” … lol
I was not aware of the Byrd-Hagel Climate Resolution and the impact on Clinton not supporting the Kyoto Protocol. This was a very interesting bit of history!
Can’t realy blame the citizens they have been told this for close to two generations now. The ones I talk to can’t believe that the government would lie to them for they have also been brainwashed into believing that business (capitalism) are evil and can not be trusted. Only a powerful federal government can look out for them!
A sane person would think :
A progressive would think :
It takes a lifetime of brainwashing to create humans that stupid and messed up.
What more can one say their theory is a joke, they know it, and they are trying to hide it with common core science!
An efficient way to form lots of Antarctic sea ice during the autumn growth season is to have strong winds that push the ice away from the coastline. Pushing sea ice away leaves open water that can lose heat to the atmosphere, creating more sea ice.
Steig is blaming the record Antarctic sea ice on global warming, and then describing it is a negative feedback which is somehow consistent with climate models. That directly contradicts the foundations of Hansen’s feedback theories. Hansen predicted peak global warming of 8°C – right where the peak sea ice gain has occurred in the Weddell Sea.
archive.org/…. epa.gov/climatechange/…./Challenge_chapter2.pdf
Hansen also predicted peak sea ice loss in the Weddell Sea, right where the peak sea ice gain has occurred.
No, they didn’t predict it all along, and a negative feedback is a direct contradiction of a fundamental tenet of global warming…
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What I get from this is that there is neither the accuracy nor the precision in the output of the models; so they homogenize the real world data into making the anomalies match the simulations. They disguise the meaningless of there system with fancy words to try and make it seem that they really know what they are doing.
The problem they have is Mother nature doesn’t give a hoot about the system, GCM’s theories and fancy words so they are left with models that say its supposed to be getting hotter and the real world that is not. The only good that can possibly come of this travesty is that sometime in the near future we will decouple science and engineering from politics!
Sorry for the rant but I’m of the generation that went to the moon and back using slide rules!
Bob Tisdale - Climate Observations
We recently presented and discussed modeled and observed global surface temperatures in absolute terms. See the post On the Elusive Absolute Global Mean Surface Temperature – A Model-Data Comparison. The WattsUpWithThat cross post is here. Yesterday, Willis Eschenbach at WUWT furnished EXCEL spreadsheets that included the outputs of climate model simulations of global surface temperatures in absolute terms. See Willis’s post CMIP5 Model Temperature Results in Excel.
Hot on the heels of those two posts comes a discussion at RealClimate of modeled absolute global surface temperatures, authored by Gavin Schmidt, the head of the Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS). Gavin’s post is Absolute temperatures and relative anomalies. Please read it in its entirety. I believe you’ll find it interesting. (Thanks, Gavin.)
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Ahh but hot to cold is old school science not the new PC science, what could all those old white guys possibly know any way!
Coral Clues Hint at Looming Global Warming Spike – Scientific American
The deep oceans are much colder than the atmosphere. Heat always flows from warmer objects to colder ones. The oceans can’t “belch heat into the atmosphere” If cold water from the deep oceans came to the surface, the atmosphere would cool – like a La Nina event.
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