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FROM ONE VET TO ALL THE OTHER VETERANS BACK TO THE BEGINNING — THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!


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THE UNKNOWNS



This is the trailer for a coming film The Unknowns a documentary film by U.S. Army Veterans Neal Schrodetzki and Ethan Morse.

Only for those that have been a military commander!


 Subject: Burial At Sea
This is quite lengthy, but once you start reading it you will finish it.  This says it like it really was and is to this day. Though I was not the one who made the notifications, I was one of those who escorted the remains home to their families and this story brought it all back.
This only for those who can and will appreciate it. This account is one of a kind. A powerful one that touches your heart. Tough duty then, as it is now. Unfortunately, not likely to be viewed by younger folks who really should see it. Burial at Sea.
 
by Lt. Col. George Goodson, USMC (Ret) 
In my 76th year, the events of my life appear to me, from time to time, as a series of vignettes. Some were significant; most were trivial. War is the seminal event in the life of everyone that has endured it. Though I fought in  Korea and the Dominican Republic and was wounded there, Vietnam was my war. 
Now 42 years have passed and, thankfully, I rarely think of those days in Cambodia, Laos, and the panhandle of North Vietnam where small teams of Americans and Montagnards fought much larger elements of the North Vietnamese Army. 
Instead I see vignettes: some exotic, some mundane:
 *The smell of Nuc Mam.
 *The heat, dust, and humidity.
 *The blue exhaust of cycles clogging the streets.
 *Elephants moving silently through the tall grass.
 *Hard eyes behind the servile smiles of the villagers.
 *Standing on a mountain in Laos and hearing a tiger roar.
 *A young girl squeezing my hand as my medic delivered her baby.
 *The flowing Ao Dais of the young women biking down Tran Hung Dao.
 *My two years as Casualty Notification Officer in North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland.
 
It was late 1967. I had just returned after 18 months in Vietnam. Casualties were increasing. I moved my family from Indianapolis to Norfolk, rented a house, enrolled my children in their fifth or sixth new school, and bought a second car. A week later, I put on my uniform and drove 10 miles to Little Creek, Virginia. I hesitated before entering my new office.  Appearance is important to career Marines.  I was no longer, if ever, a poster Marine.  I had returned from my third tour in Vietnam only 30 days before. At 5’9″, I now weighed 128 pounds – 37 pounds below my normal weight. My uniforms fit ludicrously, my skin was yellow from malaria medication, and I think I had a twitch or two. 
I straightened my shoulders, walked into the office, looked at the nameplate on a Staff Sergeant’s desk and said, “Sergeant Jolly, I’m Lieutenant Colonel Goodson. Here are my orders and my Qualification Jacket.” 
Sergeant Jolly stood, looked carefully at me, took my orders, stuck out his hand; we shook and he asked, “How long were you there, Colonel?” I replied, “18 months this time.”
Jolly breathed, “you must be a slow learner, Colonel.” I smiled. Jolly said, “Colonel, I’ll show you to your office and bring in the Sergeant Major. I said, “No, let’s just go straight to his office.”  Jolly nodded, hesitated, and lowered his
voice, “Colonel, the Sergeant Major. He’s been in this job two years. He’s packed pretty tight. I’m worried about him.” I nodded.
Jolly escorted me into the Sergeant Major’s office. “Sergeant Major, this is Colonel Goodson, the new Commanding Office. The Sergeant Major stood, extended his hand and said, “Good to see you again, Colonel.” I responded, “Hello Walt, how are you?” Jolly looked at me, raised an eyebrow, walked out, and closed the door.  I sat down with the Sergeant  Major. We had the obligatory cup of coffee and talked about mutual acquaintances. Walt’s stress was palpable.
Finally, I said, “Walt, what’s the hell’s wrong?” He turned his chair, looked out the window and said, “George, you’re going to wish you were back in Nam before you leave here. I’ve been in the Marine Corps since 1939. I was in the Pacific 36 months, Korea for 14 months, and Vietnam for 12 months. Now I come here to bury these kids. I’m putting my letter in. I can’t take it anymore.” I said, “OK Walt. If that’s what you want, I’ll endorse your request for retirement and do what I can to push it through Headquarters Marine Corps.”
Sergeant Major Walt Xxxxx retired 12 weeks later. He had been a good Marine for 28 years, but he had seen too much death and too much suffering. He was used up.
Over the next 16 months, I made 28 death notifications, conducted 28 military funerals, and made 30 notifications to the families of Marines that were severely wounded or missing in action. Most of the details of those casualty notifications have now, thankfully, faded from memory.  Four, however, remain.

 *MY FIRST NOTIFICATION*
My third or fourth day in Norfolk, I was notified of the death of a 19 year old Marine. This notification came by telephone from Headquarters Marine Corps. The information detailed:
 *Name, rank, and serial number.
 *Name, address, and phone number of next of kin.
 *Date of and limited details about the Marine’s death.
 *Approximate date the body would arrive at the Norfolk Naval Air Station.
 *A strong recommendation on whether the casket should be opened or closed.
The boy’s family lived over the border in North Carolina, about 60 miles away. I drove there in a Marine Corps staff car. Crossing the state line into North Carolina, I stopped at a small country store/service station/Post Office. I went in to ask directions. Three people were in the store.  A man and woman approached the small Post Office window. The man held a package. The Store owner walked up and addressed them by name, “Hello John. Good morning Mrs. Cooper.”
I was stunned. My casualty’s next-of-kin’s name was John Cooper! I hesitated, then stepped forward and said, “I beg your pardon. Are you Mr. and Mrs. John Cooper of (address)?”
The father looked at me-I was in uniform – and then, shaking, bent at the waist, he vomited. His wife looked horrified at him and then at me. Understanding came into her eyes and she collapsed in slow motion. I think I caught her before she hit the floor. The owner took a bottle of whiskey out of a drawer and handed it to Mr. Cooper who drank. I answered their questions for a few minutes. Then I drove them home in my staff car. The store owner locked the store and followed in their truck. We stayed an hour or so until the family began arriving. I returned the store owner to his business. He thanked me and said, “Mister, I wouldn’t have your job for a million dollars.” I shook his hand and said; “Neither would I.” I vaguely remember the drive back to Norfolk. Violating about five Marine Corps regulations, I drove the staff car straight to my house. I sat with my family while they ate dinner, went into the den, closed the  door, and sat there all night, alone. My Marines steered clear of me for days. I had made my first death notification.

 *THE FUNERALS*
Weeks passed with more notifications and more funerals. I borrowed Marines from the local Marine Corps Reserve and taught them to conduct a military funeral: how to carry a casket, how to fire the volleys and how to fold the flag. When I presented the flag to the mother, wife, or father, I always said, “All Marines share in your grief.” I had been
instructed to say, “On behalf of a grateful nation….” I didn’t think the nation was grateful, so I didn’t say that.

Sometimes, my emotions got the best of me and I couldn’t speak. When that happened, I just handed them the flag and touched a shoulder. They would look at me and nod. Once a mother said to me, “I’m so sorry you have this terrible job.” My eyes filled with tears and I leaned over and kissed her.

 *ANOTHER NOTIFICATION*
Six weeks after my first notification, I had another. This was a young PFC. I drove to his mother’s house. As always, I was in uniform and driving a Marine Corps staff car. I parked in front of the house, took a deep breath, and walked towards the house. Suddenly the door flew open, a middle-aged woman rushed out. She looked at me and ran across the yard, screaming “NO! NO! NO! NO!” I hesitated. Neighbors came out. I ran to her, grabbed her, and whispered stupid things to reassure her. She collapsed. I picked her up and carried her into the house. Eight or nine neighbors followed. Ten or fifteen minutes later, the father came in followed by ambulance personnel. I have no recollection of
leaving. The funeral took place about two weeks later. We went through the drill. The mother never looked at me. The father looked at me once and shook his head sadly.

 *ANOTHER NOTIFICATION*
One morning, as I walked in the office, the phone was ringing. Sergeant Jolly held the phone up and said, “You’ve
 got another one, Colonel.” I nodded, walked into my office, picked up the phone, took notes, thanked the officer
 making the call, I have no idea why, and hung up. Jolly, who had listened, came in with a special Telephone Directory
 that translates telephone numbers into the person’s address and place of employment. 
 The father of this casualty was a Longshoreman. He lived a mile from my office. I called the Longshoreman’s Union Office and asked for the Business Manager. He answered the phone, I told him who I was, and asked for the father’s schedule. The Business Manager asked, “Is it his son?” I said nothing. After a moment, he said, in a low voice, “Tom is at home today.” I said, “Don’t call him. I’ll take care of that.” The Business Manager said, “Aye, Aye Sir,” and then explained, “Tom and I were Marines in WWII.”

I got in my staff car and drove to the house. I was in uniform. I knocked and a woman in her early forties answered the door. I saw instantly that she was clueless. I asked, “Is Mr. Smith home?” She smiled pleasantly and responded, “Yes, but he’s eating breakfast now. Can you come back later?” I said, “I’m sorry. It’s important. I need to see him now.” She nodded, stepped back into the beach house and said, “Tom, it’s for you.”

A moment later, a ruddy man in his late forties, appeared at the door.  He looked at me, turned absolutely pale, steadied himself, and said,  “Jesus Christ man, he’s only been there three weeks!”

Months passed. More notifications and more funerals. Then one day while I was running, Sergeant Jolly stepped outside the building and gave a loud whistle, two fingers in his mouth…… I never could do that….. and held an imaginary phone to his ear.

Another call from Headquarters Marine Corps. I took notes, said, “Got it.” and hung up. I had stopped saying “Thank You” long ago.

Jolly, “Where?” Me, “Eastern Shore of Maryland. The father is a retired Chief Petty Officer. His brother will accompany the body back from Vietnam….”  Jolly shook his head slowly, straightened, and then said, “This time of day, it’ll take three hours to get there and back. I’ll call the Naval Air Station and borrow a helicopter. And I’ll have Captain Tolliver get one of his men to meet you and drive you to the Chief’s home.”

He did, and 40 minutes later, I was knocking on the father’s door. He opened the door, looked at me, then looked at the Marine standing at parade rest beside the car, and asked, “Which one of my boys was it, Colonel?” I stayed a couple of hours, gave him all the information, my office and home phone number and told him to call me, anytime. He called me that evening about 2300 (11:00PM). “I’ve gone through my boy’s papers and found his will. He asked to be buried at sea. Can you make that happen?” I said, “Yes I can, Chief. I can and I will.”

My wife who had been listening said, “Can you do that?” I told her, “I have no idea. But I’m going to break my ass trying.” I called Lieutenant General Alpha Bowser, Commanding General, Fleet Marine Force Atlantic, at home about 2330, explained the situation, and asked, “General, can you get me a quick appointment with the Admiral at Atlantic Fleet Headquarters?” General Bowser said,” George, you be there tomorrow at 0900. He will see you.”

I was and the Admiral did. He said coldly, “How can the Navy help the Marine Corps, Colonel?” I told him the story. He turned to his Chief of Staff and said, “Which is the sharpest destroyer in port?” The Chief of Staff responded with a
 name. The Admiral called the ship, “Captain, you’re going to do a burial at sea. You’ll report to a Marine Lieutenant Colonel Goodson until this mission is completed… “

He hung up, looked at me, and said, “The next time you need a ship, Colonel, call me. You don’t have to sic Al Bowser on my ass.” I responded, “Aye Aye, Sir” and got the hell out of his office. I went to the ship and met with the Captain, Executive Officer, and the Senior Chief. Sergeant Jolly and I trained the ship’s crew for four days. Then Jolly raised a question none of us had thought of. He said, “These government caskets are air tight. How do we keep it from
floating?”

All the high priced help,  including me, sat there looking dumb. Then the Senior Chief stood and said, “Come on Jolly. I know a bar where the retired guys from World War II hang out.” They returned a couple of hours later, slightly the worst for wear, and said, “It’s simple; we cut four 12″ holes in the outer shell of the casket on each side and insert 300 lbs. of lead in the foot end of the casket.  We can handle that, no sweat.”

The day arrived. The ship and the sailors looked razor sharp. General Bowser, the Admiral, a US Senator, and a Navy Band were on board. The sealed casket was brought aboard and taken below for modification. The ship got underway to the 12-fathom depth. The sun was hot. The ocean flat. The casket was brought aft and placed on a catafalque. The Chaplin spoke. The volleys were fired. The flag was removed, folded, and I gave it to the father. The band played “Eternal Father Strong to Save.” The cask
et was raised slightly at the head and it slid into the sea.

The heavy casket plunged straight down about six feet. The incoming water collided with the air pockets in the outer shell. The casket stopped abruptly, rose straight out of the water about three feet, stopped, and slowly slipped back into the sea. The air bubbles rising from the sinking casket sparkled in the sunlight as the casket disappeared from sight forever….
The next morning I called a personal friend, Lieutenant General Oscar Peatross, at Headquarters Marine Corps and
 said, “General, get me out of here. I can’t take this anymore.” I was transferred two weeks later. I was a good Marine but, after 17 years, I had seen too much death and too much suffering. I was used up.

Vacating the house, my family and I drove to the office in a two-car convoy. I said my goodbyes. Sergeant Jolly walked out with me. He waved at my family, looked at me with tears in his eyes, came to attention, saluted, and said, “Well Done, Colonel. Well Done.” I felt as if I had received the Medal of Honor!

A veteran is someone who, at one point, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America for an amount of up to and including their life.’ That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no
longer understand it.’

A day at the Range last week


Practicing old skills from back in the day — and guess what they are very hard to forget!  Let just hope in the coming months they are not needed!

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To the troopers that were wounded or killed at Special Force CIDG camp Bu Dop A-341in 1967


Special Forces casualties resulting from combat operations conducted at or around 5th SF Group (Abn) camp Bu Dop A-341 Between September 1967  through December 1967. The dates are when the incident occurred and the panel & line are the location on the Vietnam memorial  wall.  The second date was when that person died from wounds or MIA status changed to presumed dead. These we some of the men I served with in Vietnam

 

MAJ John O. Cooper, III      KIA      October 26, 1967

Panel 28E, Line 73

SP5 Joseph R. Beck, Jr.      KIA      October 26, 1967

Panel 28E, Line 72

SFC Elmer R. L. Ables, Jr.    KIA      October 26, 1967

Panel 28E, Line 71

MSG James O. White         WIA     November, 28 1967

SFC Herman A. McBride     KIA      November 29, 1967

Panel 31E, Line 6

SSG Michal Millner            MIA     November 29, 1967    July 2, 1974

Panel 31E, Line 005

SP4 Paul Posey                 WIA     December 1, 1967

SP4 Jerry D. Schroeder     WIA     December 8, 1967      January 3, 1968

Panel 33E, Line 32

MSG Ernest O. Broom        WIA     December 8, 1967      January 11 1968

Panel 34E, Line 27

1 LT David J Pristash          WIA     December 8, 1967

A descent into darkness by our special operations forces


I am a former Green Beret of the Vietnam era where I spent 4 months in Vietnam as the XO of A-341 Bu Dop on the border of Cambodia in ‘67 until I was wounded and sent back to the states (the World as it was known back then). My total service was 4 years with the final rank of Captain. Some 20 years after getting out and now with some time on my hands I joined several military association one of which was the Special Forces Association mostly comprising Vietnam era vets (all Green Berets) with only a few from the WOT, or whatever they call it now.
A few years ago we had a current SF officer (field grade) attended a meeting and he gave us a briefing (unclassified) on the current situation with the current wars. I was shocked when he told me, when I talked to him, that he didn’t care who he was going after, he was only glad that he was “able to practice his art.” That maybe but when conducting unconventional warfare it must be done very cautiously as it is way too easy to get out of hand, and it has.
I don’t blame the military as much as the politicians in particular the commander in Chief the President. Without a clear and achievable mission the results are never good and the ROE (Rules Of Engagement) make for very difficult missions that are micro managed from the very top. As this post explains we are using our military as assassins and with a few exceptions that is wrong. What is also wrong is using Drones as assassination platforms especially when they really never know whom they are killing.
Two things led to this situation the first is the elimination of the draft and the second was outsourcing much of the military labor to sub contractors. The elimination of the draft produced a professional military which is not good and the second created paramilitary of private companies that recruited special operations and other highly training operators who became an under the table US military, without much oversight. Both of these have allowed the politicians to conduct operations that may seem legitimate but are not. The result of this will be a military that will not see anything wrong with conducting operations in the interior of the country.

Larry Kummer, Editor's avatarFabius Maximus website

Summary: Only slowly have Americans begun to see the dark thing done in our name during our post-9/11 wars. For years we tightly closed our eyes. We told ourselves that only terrorists were killed, or fighters “on the battlefield” — plus a few civilians as collateral damage. Slowly those lies get debunked and we see the institutionalized assassination machinery created in our military – dirtying our reputation, operationally ineffective, and strategically counterproductive. But it doesn’t matter what we think, for the war has slipped beyond civilian control (as wars often do). {2nd of 2 posts today.}

Navy special warfareMember of Special Operations Task Force Southeast at Base Tarin in Afghanistan, 7 Aug 2012. By James Ginther.

Contents

  1. SEAL Team 6: quiet killings.
  2. Elite soldiers become assassins.
  3. Assassination seldom works.
  4. Women can fight and kill.
  5. There are alternatives.
  6. For More Information.

(1)  SEAL Team 6: quiet killings

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AMERICA’S NEW MILITARY: LOW MORALE, NO FUTURE, DISTRUST TOP LEADERS


This will not turn out good!

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The History of Dog fighting


This almost an hour and a half movie on “dog” fighting from WW I to the Present is a must watch for anyone interested in aerial warfare. Actual footage and computer graphics make this very realistic.

I carry a gun every day


Situational Awareness you learn it in the military (especially special ops) and it helps keep you alive!

deacon303's avatarWhiskey Tango Foxtrot

Every day I get up and put on a gun. It’s part of my daily routine. No different from making coffee or feeding the dogs before I leave for work.

There is so much misinformation about who that makes me. I’m a “gun nut.” I’m one of “those right-wing Second Amendment people.” I’m the scourge of the earth to some.

Funny how that works.

They don’t even know me but they are worried that I’m what’s wrong with this country, this state and this city I call home. I walk among them and they don’t even know it. I’m the guy in the jeans and Under Armour shirt, the guy in the $200 sport coat and $125 shoes, the guy in Nike pants and a hoodie, and some days I’m the guy with dirty hands from working in the yard, but most of all I’m the guy they never see.

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THE FINAL INSPECTION


Author Unknown~

The soldier stood and faced God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass.

‘Step forward now, soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?’

The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
“No, Lord, I guess I ain’t,”
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can’t always be a saint.

I’ve had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I’ve been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.

But, I never took a penny,
That wasn’t mine to keep…
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills just got too steep.

And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fears…
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I’ve wept unmanly tears.

I know I don’t deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fear.

If you’ve a place for me here, Lord,
It needn’t be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don’t, I’ll understand.

There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.

“Step forward now, you soldier,
You’ve borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven’s streets,
You’ve done your time in Hell.”

 

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If you care to offer the smallest token
of recognition and appreciation
for our military, please pass this onand
pray for our men and women
who have served, and are
currently serving our country.
And pray for those who have given
the ultimate sacrifice for freedom…