Islam v Christianity Part II


Crusades

This contest between Islam and Christianity is primarily at the elite level. The bulk of those in Turkey do not support the idea of returning to the days of old. Of course, both Hitler and Napoleon dreamed about resurrecting the Roman Empire. By no means did this same dream infect the general population. These types of dreams appear to be infecting those who seek power; not the general population. Even our military elite do everything to demonize Putin to justify using the toys they have built. It is like buying a brand new car but you never leave the showroom. To them, what’s the point if there is no enemy. So make one is their motto. There is no justification to be against Russia when it is no longer communist. So at least the bankers created Putin if not the CIA.

LusitaniaPolice exert power over citizens for they too see evil in everyone as do judges and prosecutors when we are talking about the majority of such groups. Naturally, there are always exceptions. But this infection of power to resurrect the Ottoman Empire is clearly in the mind of  Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. The average Turk has no such dream of a  caliphate reborn. The majority of the Turkish population does not support this idea of Erdoğan.

German-Lusitania_warningHowever, the American people were also very anti-war. FDR had to go to Boston to promise he would only send arms to Britain, not troops for World War II. Boston was primarily Irish who fled here because of the British. They would not support sending their sons to war to die for the very people they fled from. The Germans in World War I even took out advertisements warning citizens not to travel on the Lusitania because the political elites in the USA were violating their declared neutrality sending arms hidden in passenger ships. When the Lusitania was sunk, that was the battle cry that the Germans sank a cruise ship with civilians that was an act of war.

The question is never what the general population believes, but only the elite. They will lie and do whatever it takes to further their agenda. Perhaps only about 15% of Turks would argue that restoring the Ottoman Empire would be a solution. However, even this minority is created primarily as a direct result of the declining economy. As I have explained numerous times, there is a direct correlation between economics and war. When everyone is FAT & HAPPY, war does not come. Let the economy crash and this fuels resentment that the elites need to exploit for political gain.

The biggest crisis in the Middle East is the declining oil price in combination with the decline in oil demand as energy storage expands creating cars and other products not dependent on oil. This is a lethal combination. Some countries expanded their budgets without rational thought. As the economy has turned down taking demand with it, some countries are in a similar position as was Spain after the discovery of America. The spent wildly and in the process they could no longer support that lifestyle. Spain then defaulted seven times and they fell from the richest state in Europe to the poorest. This was all magically created by fiscal mismanagement. They turned against their own people when desperate for money. They employed the Spanish Inquisition ruthlessly usurping the power of the Catholic Church to justify their exploitation of their own people. Even the Pope spoke out against the Spanish Inquisition. Religion has always become the excuse in times of economic decline.

Great Persecution

When Rome began to fall during the 3rd century, became known as the Great Persecution since it was the last and most severe persecution of Christians even to take place during the Roman Empire. The year was 303AD, when the Emperors Diocletian, Maximian, Galerius, and Constantius issued a series of edicts rescinding the legal rights of Christians. They demanded that they comply with traditional Roman religious practices because the prevailing view was the gods were punishing Rome because the Christians would not acknowledge them. They also then went after the clergy ordering all inhabitants of Rome must sacrifice to the Roman gods. This persecution lasted for 8.6 years until it peaked and began to decline. Maximian issued coins depicting himself as Hercules savior of the world.

MXHERC-GFontanels cemetery NaplesIt was Constantine and Licinius who issued a new Edict of Milan in 313AD has traditionally marked the end of the Great Persecution. Keep in mind that this correlated with the economic decline. Here, the people said the gods were punishing Rome since they could not attribute the decline to another empire. When there is an external enemy, then that is who will always be blamed first. If nothing else exists, then they turn against their own people singling out some group be in Christians in Rome or Jews in Germany under the Nazi movement. The he Fontanelle cemetery in Naples Italy is a reminder of the Christians put to death during the Great Persecution.

Moreover, just so it is clear, the people of Turkey and other Islam following countries are completely different regarding paths of Islam just as Catholics and Protestants, or in Judaism be it Orthodox v Reformed. Probably, the majority do not go to church these days so it is debatable to what extent religion really plays a role in the majority of people’s lives. Politicians steal regardless of their religion. Nevertheless, the elites seek power by trying to  inspire a unifying factor.

That said, what we are really talking about here is not the dream of the majority of the people, but of elites. They will do whatever it takes to make that dream reality driving the people to act in one way or another. The people are always collateral damage to achieve their goal of domination.

KOMMONSENTSJANE – TURKEY CONVERTS HAGIA SOPHIA TO MOSQUE


Also are there even many Christians left in Turkey!

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Turkey Converts Hagia Sophia to Mosque

by Robert Jones
November 9, 2016

◾This is how the minds of Islamic supremacists seem to work: If you want churches to remain churches, it means you are “disturbed by the Koran or Islamic prayers,” and you disrespect or “insult” Islam. According to Islamic scriptures, those who “insult” Islam or its prophet Muhammad are to be executed.
◾So if one wants to survive under Islamic rule, one has to submit to Islam and accept one’s own inferior status. There is apparently no place for diversity or civilized, equal coexistence of Muslims and non-Muslims in Islamic nations.
◾”I can only think of one reason [to turn Hagia Sophia into a mosque]. As a shout of Islamic triumphalism. What a mistake that would be. Christians would rightly consider it an intentional insult. The international community would see it as an open rejection of its diversity agenda…

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AMERICA’S FUTURE UNDER HILLARY: MUSLIM MIGRANTS DESTROY PARIS IN SHOCK VIDEOS


Paris will soon be the cesspool of the EU

KOMMONSENTSJANE – NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM


ISLAM IS 100% BAD!

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Nothing to do with Islam:

Politicians rarely have long term vision. They want tangible, if possible immediate, results.”

Listen up!

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Just Like Killing Chickens


A jihadi said that beheading Kafirs, non-Muslims, is like killing chickens so he has no remorse. And why would he feel nothing? Could it be that he believes that Kafirs are worse than animals? Allah says:

Koran 25:44 Do you think that most of them hear, or understand? They are just like animals; no, they are far worse.

The jihadi has the moral right to behead the Kafir. He is following Allah’s commands:

Koran 8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”

In the early Koran of Mecca, Allah condemns Kafirs to hell 146 times. Of these 146 condemnations, only 9 involve moral wrongs such as greed and lying. The other 137 times are because the Kafir did not think that Mohammed was the prophet of Allah. Kafirs reject Mohammed as a prophet and deny the Koran. Killing them by beheading is jihad. Raping them is jihad. The jihad advances Islam.

There are other chickens (cowards), as well. Chicken religious leaders do not stand up for persecuted Christians. There is a chicken media that does not tell the truth about Islam or criticize it. And there are chicken professors who do not teach the truth of the suffering in history caused by jihad over the last 1400 years.

We must stop being chicken cowards. We may have fear, but we must speak out. Only then can we prevent our civilization from being annihilated.

KOMMONSENTSJANE – EX-MUSLIM SALMAN RUSHDIE


Most of us that have brains understand the serious problems that exist with Islam at its very core.

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Ex muslim Salman Rushdie – Islam is Insane

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Gang of Syrian boys aged 7-14 reportedly sexually harassed underage girls in Berlin swimming pool


They are only doing what their religion demands that they do!

Refugees File in Court to Bring Relatives to Germany


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Over 17,000 asylum seekers in Germany have filed lawsuits, clogging the courts, that are aimed at getting their families to join them in Germany. This is the same strategy that people were screaming about in the United States where families would first send their children to the States and then seek to be reunited. Under the Geneva Convention, refugees (at least the ones from Syria) are now believed to be legally in a position where the courts must grant them relief. That means the state will have to provide full benefits that amount to healthcare and pay as if they were working. This is not going to go down well with the German people.

Syrian refugee in Germany with 4 wives, 22 kids sparks social media fuss over welfare


The Muslims have a problem with in breeding and this policy of having 4 wife’s is part of it.

Christian refugees persecuted by Muslim asylum seekers in German shelters – survey


No surprise its what all “real” Muslims do!