Ode to Karen: New Villain in the Covid Fear Pandemic


The loss of civil liberties and jobs and the ensuing chaos in our land are so much more dangerous than Covid-19 to Karen and to all of us

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Re-posted from the Canada Free Press By —— Bio and ArchivesJuly 3, 2020

Ode to Karen: New Villain in the Covid Fear Pandemic

Karen, please stay home, wash your hands,  socially distance, and let the rest of us endure without your constant coronavirus soapboxing.

Here’s the deal that America offers Karen: U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Roberts promises to keep her abortions safe and legal. In return, the rest of us request that Karen leaves us alone, specifically around wearing face masks. America would also like to remind Karen that she and her young children, if she has any, have almost no chance of dying of Covid-19.

One would think that Karen would be more concerned about rampant rioting in the streets and lawlessness

One would think that Karen would be more concerned about rampant rioting in the streets and lawlessness, but no, she’s busy moralizing that everyone should wear a face mask so that somehow, nobody will ever die of coronavirus, which is a total fantasy.

People are going to die of Covid-19 for a long time, even if there is ever a vaccine, as science still has not found the cure for the common cold, much less the flu, which kills tens of thousands of people in the United States each year. In fact, the flu so far is more lethal to children than Covid-19.

Karen is the pejorative term for women who demand beyond the scope of what is considered appropriate or necessary, and in this case, during Covid-19, it is the entitlement to feel safe no matter what the cost to others.

Calling someone a Karen unfortunately also has the message of telling women “to shut up,” and that’s not good. For example, the meme has succeeded in silencing women, who say they have had to balance their desire to complain with their fear of being called a Karen.

Nevertheless, among the most galling aspects of the Covid-19 fear pandemic is 25-year-old single Karen telling people over 50 how stupid they are.

Karen does not realize that older Americans survived their twenties. With more life experience, seniors have acquired wisdom, and that includes the ability to take necessary precautions. And let’s not forget the married Karen in her 30s and 40s, who post on social media on how proud she is that the museum in her town has done so much to protect children, as she posts pictures of her children under 10 years old wearing face masks, scaring the living daylights out of them and causing who-knows-what future psychological trauma, instead of telling them that they are not going to die of Covid-19.

There is no proof, meaning no peer-reviewed scientific evidence, that wearing a mask somehow reduces the risk to others

And just to prove that this is not misogyny, there are male Karens, too. They dutifully don their face masks as they work remotely and never worry about the 45 million of the Great Unwashed who have lost their jobs due to locking down the economy for a virus that only kills 0.4 percent of the people who contract it, of which nearly all had underlying medical conditions or were over 75 years of age, and usually both.

For healthy people to wear a mask when they have hardly any chance of dying of Covid-19 makes no sense. This holds especially true for children under 17, who are the least at risk, and therefore ought to be returned to face-to-face school as soon as possible. Anybody who is afraid of catching Covid-19 can wear a high-grade face mask and ingest unhealthy amounts of their own carbon dioxide. If they are especially afraid of catching the virus due to underlying medical conditions, they can add a face shield and not worry that “droplets” will zoom onto their person and kill them in a moment’s notice.

In fact, there is no proof, meaning no peer-reviewed scientific evidence, that wearing a mask somehow reduces the risk to others. This assertion that everyone be required to wear face masks is the lynchpin of the lockdown narrative of which Karen is the primary consumer. The following is gleaned from the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center website and quotes the Centers for Disease Control, i.e., the two most credible “mainstream,” sources on Covid-19.

Notice the language in this statement, completely free of what would be called scientific proof

“Cloth face coverings are recommended as a simple barrier to help prevent respiratory droplets from traveling into the air and onto other people when somebody coughs, sneezes, talks or raises their voice. This is called source control,” the CDC says. “This recommendation is based on what we know about the role respiratory droplets play in the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19, paired with emerging evidence from clinical and laboratory studies that shows cloth face coverings reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth.”

Notice the language in this statement, completely free of what would be called scientific proof. “What we know” and “emerging evidence” are backhanded attempts to bolster what can only be called speculation without exhaustive research. Right now, we do not know much other than that the health experts often have been quite wrong during Covid-19. How do these health experts “know” from what they speak? Where is the “emerging evidence,” under laboratory conditions, with control groups to determine that everyone ought to wear a mask? Nowhere, because it does not exist. The main thing that we truly know about Covid-19 is that the virus is highly contagious, but remarkably non-lethal to the young and healthy.

Karens are our daughters, wives, and sisters. Their hearts are in the right place. They are the nurturers and the protectors of parents and grandparents. However, Karen, please don’t be scared for yourself, and certainly not for your children either. Hardly anybody healthy and under 65 years old dies of Covid-19. The loss of civil liberties and jobs and the ensuing chaos in our land are so much more dangerous than Covid-19 to Karen and to all of us.

Democrats Admit Killing the Economy is Key to Overthrow Trump?


This is a Tweet that has been going around which is false, but it articulates what is really taking place behind the curtain – the deliberate strategy of destroying jobs to win this election is just beyond comprehension. This is the intensity we face. Politics has become so toxic that NEITHER side will accept a loss and we will see extreme violence in the streets. This may go down in history like the comment let them eat cake from the French Revolution which was also made up. Nevertheless, it fueled a revolution.

Comment from Texas – The End Result


COMMENT: Martin,

There was an emergency virtual meeting of the Texas Republican Executive Committee last night after Governor Abbott signed an executive order requiring masks and social distancing, and banning assemblies of more than 10 people.

After nearly three hours of babbling, someone finally called the question, and the executive committee voted to hold the convention in Houston as planned.

Also, the Collin County Judge issued a blanket approval of any assembly of 10 or more to counter the Governor’s usurpation of the legislature.  Republicans are madder than hornets at Abbott.  I do not think he could win an election for dog catcher after this.

Last week during a Rockwall City Council emergency meeting, one city Councilman moved to cancel all July 4th activities.  It was voted down 4-1.  Also, a doctor was censured and resigned from a health board for inflating Covid numbers.

Our church is in the Rockwall 4th of July parade tomorrow morning.  When asked about the Governor’s dictatorial mandate, the mayor replied that people have been cooped up long enough, and we need this 4th of July celebration.

A lady at church in her 50s had all the symptoms (cough, fever, loss of taste/smell, tiredness) for a week, and her Covid-19 test came back positive today.  She is feeling better, though, and never had to be hospitalized.

Hopefully, the herd immunization will strengthen and cases will subside.  Constant restrictions are limiting social (here) immune response.

-DB

REPLY: I have been running the models perhaps hoping for a different outcome but it’s always the same. September to November 2020 is going to see rising tension. It is clear that this virus is being used for political purposes and NEITHER side will accept the result in November. I added a section in the Great Reset which people can pull down as an update where the United States is now calling for a one-world government and that all politicians should come together and join under their banner. This is a major political coup that is unfolding on a global scale, but they are focusing on getting rid of Trump so they can include the United States along with Europe.

PLEASE keep in mind that while the dollar may end up as a safe haven for Europe, DO NOT expect that to last beyond 2 years at best. There is nothing which is permanent as we head into 2032. Even the 2020 election may end up in the Supreme Court.

This whole thing is a major effort to take over the world economy for all the socialistic programs that are collapsing. Europe has endured 6 years of negative interest rates with no stimulation. They can no longer raise money to fund programs. The days of perpetually borrowing have come to an end. This coup is all about seizing the system for what they see is a global revolution when people realize that everything they counted on from the government will not be there.

Survival: The Countdown to Election Day Clock


Hidden well down at the foggy bottom of the scaremongering is the reality of what the power-crazed, hate-spewing, fear mongering Democrats are really up to

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Re-Posted from the Canada Free press By  —— Bio and ArchivesJuly 2, 2020

Survival: The Countdown to Election Day ClockThe long Trail of Tears leading to November 3rd Election Day is covered with broken bits of toppled statues and defaced monuments.  In the 123 days before Election, people are deliberately being herded down an election trail, driven by fear that a pandemic that has already shut down the world of commerce will be striking again—any day now.

Some people who already lost jobs in Pandemic, Round One, and found new ones, will lose them again in Dr. Anthony Fauci’s Pandemic, Round Two.

Now that thousands of city and town mayors and their councils are bowing to the pressure of the anarchy of the street mobs, it will be a horror a day, even a horror by hour,  as the main means of keeping the fearful in lockdown.

Overnight our world’s become a surrealistic digital one where nothing seems normal any more.

Most citizen society has been shut out from the the normal life it lived before the pandemic hit, making it a society of sad, lost and bewildered souls.

As just one indication of how far this has all gone:  No one makes it into Sunday church service without registering first and wearing a mask in the same churches where many have gone with their parents since childhood.

With all social media on Election Standby and a complicit media amplifying the words of ‘expert’ Dr, Anthony Fauci predicting there will soon be 100,000 U.S. pandemic cases a day, scare mongering dominates the “News”.

Hidden well down at the foggy bottom of the scaremongering is the reality of what the power-crazed, hate-spewing, fear mongering Democrats are really up to.

It’s all about the Democrats’ return to power through the covert theft of Election 2020, one where they and not the electorate will be the voters, courtesy of a “non-partisan”,  100% MAIL-IN-VOTE.

Meanwhile survival means that the shunned masses must live the next 123 days—one day at a time.

Time flies, and by the end of this day, one of the 123 days will already have passed.

Patriots, you may not be able to get into your community church without first registering and then wearing a mask— but you can still pray most fervently in that inviolate church called HOME.

Day One of the 120 leading to Election has almost passed by.  Ditto for Day 2, tomorrow.

 

Huge COVID case-counting deception at the CDC


The number media and government and related con artists deploy to scare the people and justify lockdowns and use to stop reopening the economy

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Re-Posted from the Canada Free Press By  — NoMoreFakeNews—— Bio and ArchivesJuly 2, 2020

Huge COVID case-counting deception at the CDC

For this piece, we have to enter the official world (of the insane)—-where everyone is quite sure a new coronavirus was discovered in China and the worthless diagnostic tests mean something and the case numbers are real and meaningful.  Once we execute all those absurd maneuvers, we land square in the middle of yet another scandal—-this time at our favorite US agency for scandals, the CDC.

The Atlantic, May 21, has the story, headlined, “How could the CDC make that mistake?

The Stark inference The Atlantic somehow failed to grasp

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealedclick here.)

I’ll give you the key quotes, and then comment on the stark inference The Atlantic somehow failed to grasp.

“We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus…The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral [PCR] and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons.”

“Several states—-including Pennsylvania, the site of one of the country’s largest outbreaks, as well as Texas, Georgia, and Vermont—-are blending the data in the same way. Virginia likewise mixed viral and antibody test results until last week, but it reversed course and the governor apologized for the practice after it was covered by the Richmond Times-Dispatch and The Atlantic. Maine similarly separated its data on Wednesday; Vermont authorities claimed they didn’t even know they were doing this.”

“‘You’ve got to be kidding me,’ Ashish Jha, the K. T. Li Professor of Global Health at Harvard and the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told us when we described what the CDC was doing. ‘How could the CDC make that mistake? This is a mess’.”

“The CDC stopped publishing anything resembling a complete database of daily [COVID] test results on February 29. When it resumed publishing test data last week [the middle of May]…”

The number media and government and related con artists deploy to scare the people and justify lockdowns and use to stop reopening the economy

First of all, the CDC’s basic mission is publishing disease statistics on an ongoing basis.  Reporting partial data flies in the face of what they’re supposed to be all about.

But the big deal, of course, is combining results from two different tests—-the PCR and the antibody—-and placing them in one lump.

I’ve read the Atlantic article forwards, backwards, and sideways, and it appears the experts believe only PCR viral tests should be used to count the number of COVID cases.

So here is a takeaway I find nowhere in the Atlantic article: COMBINING THE TWO TESTS WILL VASTLY INFLATE THE NUMBER OF CASES.

I’m not talking about categories like “rate of infection” or “percentage.”  I’m talking about plain numbers of cases.

Some PCR tests will indicate COVID and some antibody tests will indicate COVID, and adding them together will pump up the number of cases.  You know, that big number they flash on TV screens a hundred times a day.

“Coronavirus cases jumped up again yesterday, and the grand total in the US is now…”

THAT number.

The number media and government and related con artists deploy to scare the people and justify lockdowns and use to stop reopening the economy.

The brass band circus with flying acrobats and elephants and clown numbers.

Somehow, these “mistakes” always seem to result in worse news, not better news

Therefore, I’m not characterizing what the CDC is doing as a mistake.  They’ve managed to create the illusion that absolute case numbers are higher than they should be.

Somehow, these “mistakes” always seem to result in worse news, not better news.  The “errors” are always on the high side rather than the low side.

Case in point: the computer prediction of COVID deaths in the UK and US made by that abject failure, Neil Ferguson, whose track record, going back to 2001, has been one horrendous lunatic exaggeration after another.  His 2020 projections of 500,000 COVID deaths in the UK and two million in the US were directly used to justify lockdowns in many countries.

The CDC, back in 2009, stopped reporting the number of Swine Flu cases in the US—-while still claiming that number was in the tens of thousands.  I’ve written in great detail about the scandal, which was exposed by then-CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson.  The CDC stopped counting cases, because the overwhelming percentage of tissue samples from patients was coming back from labs with no sign of Swine Flu or any other kind of flu.  And yet, in a later retrospective “analysis,” the CDC claimed that, at the height of the “epidemic,” there were 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US.

Going all the way back to 2003 and SARS, the CDC and other public health agencies around the world hyped the dangers to the sky; the final official death count, globally, when the dust cleared?  800.

SO HOW MANY COVID CASES SHOULD WE SUBTRACT TO GET THE ACTUAL NUMBER?

There is a tradition of lying on the high side, blowing up figures in order to create the illusion of destruction.

CDC?  Mistake?  The agency is certainly incompetent.  But that’s just the beginning of the story.

The only time they say there is no danger is when they’re lying about the effects of vaccines.

My headline for the Atlantic article would read: SO HOW MANY COVID CASES SHOULD WE SUBTRACT TO GET THE ACTUAL NUMBER?

And the first paragraph would go this way: “Just when governors are trying to reopen their economies, a gigantic case-counting deception at the CDC is taking the wind out of their sails.  The millions of Americans suffering financial devastation could be pushed back into a hole.  Who is screaming to high heaven about THAT on the nightly news?  No one.  Why not?”

CDC Admits Mistakes in Covid Case Numbers

Michigan Hydroxychloroquine Study Shows Significant Benefit for Treatment – Media Shocked…


A Henry Ford Health Clinic study shows significant decreases in the death rate among patients to used Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.  Many U.S. media outlets are ignoring the result; however, even CNN has admitted the “surprise” study findings.

MICHIGAN – A Henry Ford Health System study shows the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine helps lower the death rate of COVID-19 patients, the Detroit-based health system said Thursday.

Officials with the Michigan health system said the study found the drug “significantly” decreased the death rate of patients involved in the analysis.

The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system’s six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died.

Among all patients in the study, there was an overall in-hospital mortality rate of 18%, and many who died had underlying conditions that put them at greater risk, according to Henry Ford Health System. (more)

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Peter Navarro, drew attention to the Michigan study as well as another in New York.  Navarro pointed out that media opposition to the treatment has likely resulted in unnecessary death.

NAVARRO – “A new study came out from Henry Ford hospital system that shows that if we take the medicine hydroxychloroquine In early treatment, we can observe a more than 50% reduction in mortality, without any adverse effects.”

“Now what, what, practically, that means is that if we had been using hydroxychloroquine at the very beginning, we could have saved 10s of thousands of lives already. And moving forward If hydroxychloroquine is used under the advice of the physician in early treatment, this study suggests that we could save hundreds of thousands of American lives over time and perhaps millions worldwide.”

“And the same day that that came out, a similar study came out from Mount Sinai Hospital system, which had a similar conclusion that hydroxychloroquine basically lowers the mortality rate.”

Navarro said he found it “reprehensible” only two outlets covered the news and reflects a “very strong bias media.”

“This is an undue and unnecessary fear of medicine is the use of more than six decades relatively safely. This is a drug that is regularly prescribed for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, pregnant women take it. It’s, it’s a drug that that has gotten this hysterical bad rap, on the basis of the media selectively pro promoting studies which on their face are flawed studies. (more)

The media manipulation of the political discussion has so divided our nation that people have actually been killed by the efforts of fake news and their Democrat allies.  All of this collective resistance has created a toxic stew of distrust and unease in the American people.  Distrust and division are extreme; and there’s a very good reason why so many Americans are angry toward the media and those who are weaponizing news.

Obviously CNN has to ignore all the column inches and hours of broadcast where they politicized the treatment.  As often said: in order for left-wing ideologues to maintain the fallacies within their political positions, they must pretend not to know things….

EXPLOSIVE – About All These “New” Positive COVID Cases – State Health Departments Manipulating Data, Changing Definitions..


This is very interesting.  The document described in the video below is available HERE.  Research into state health regulations by Fog City Midge shows that new guidance for the definition of COVID-19 positive infections is likely the biggest background cause in a dramatic upswing in positive test results.  WATCH:

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This revelation would explain exactly why those who construct the reporting systems are pushing so hard for contact tracing.  According to the new guidance anyone who comes into contact with a person who tests positive is now also considered positive. [pdf link]

Nice convenient way to inflate the infection rate.  The verified source is Here

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In order to support the most important political objectives of the DNC writ large in the 2020 election, COVID-19 hype is essential:

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats cannot easily achieve ‘mail-in’ voting; which they desperately need in key battleground states in order to control the outcome.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats cannot shut down rallies and political campaigning efforts of President Trump; which they desperate need to do in key battleground states.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats cannot block the campaign contrast between an energetic President Trump and a physically tenuous, mentally compromised, challenger.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats do not have an excuse for cancelling the DNC convention in Milwaukee; thereby blocking Team Bernie Sanders from visible opposition while protecting candidate gibberish from himself.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats do not have a mechanism to keep voters isolated from each-other; limiting communication and national debate adverse to their interests.  COVID-19 panic pushes the national conversation into the digital space where Big Tech controls every element of the conversation.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats cannot keep their Blue state economies easily shut-down and continue to block U.S. economic growth.  All thriving economies are against the political interests of Democrats.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats cannot easily keep club candidate Joe Biden sealed in the basement; where the electorate is not exposed to visible signs of his dementia.

♦Without COVID-19 panic it becomes more difficult for Big Tech to censor voices that would outline the fraud and scheme.  With COVID-19 panic they have a better method and an excuse.

♦Without COVID-19 panic Democrats cannot advance, influence, or organize their preferred presidential debate format, a ‘virtual presidential debate’ series.

[Comrade Gretchen Whitmer knows this plan, hence she cancelled the Michigan venue]

All of these, and more, strategic outcomes are based on the manufactured weaponization of the COVID-19 virus to achieve a larger political objective.  There is ZERO benefit to anyone other than Democrats for the overwhelming hype surrounding COVID-19.

It is not coincidental that all corporate media are all-in to facilitate the demanded fear that Democrats need in order to achieve their objectives.  Thus there is an alignment of all big government institutions and multinationals to support the same.

Nothing is coincidental. Everything is political.

The Decline in the Economy Hits Hollywood


We continue to see the tech stocks lead and the paradigm shift continues as brick and mortar stores are folding. Bloomberg reported that thirteen additional US companies over 50-million filed for bankruptcy. So far, this brings the total for the year to date to 117. This will exceed 2009 high without question, but there is far more damage underlying everything. Amazon is looking to buy the AMC theater chain which is in trouble only because you cannot win an Academy Award for a film unless it appears in a movie theater.

Then the entire movie industry has been wiped out. Film making has come to a halt, as filming now requires a special COVID-19 team to oversee the movie and can shut it down at any moment. Film production is insured. The insurance companies are refusing to pay to call this a forced closure by the government, which they do not cover. This is turning into a confrontation as nobody will write insurance to cover production, and thus you can count on this killing the industry in 2020.

Is there an Uptick in Coronavirus? Or is the Smartest Virus in History?


It is interesting that our computer projected the peak would be April then a bounce into July. But this begs the question: Is this really a surge or is the fact that they have drastically increased the testing and the youth who have been infected without knowing it now test positive? I have stated that in a single month, I personally have been tested 5 times. Each comes back as NEGATIVE yet a doctor told me that really doesn’t matter because the tests are so inaccurate. I find this response just stunning. I suppose the only way to say you don’t have this disease is to accept a Gates Vaccination that genetically alters your DNA when you have no idea what the long-term implications would be. So you suddenly start to grow a nose on the back of your head in 5 years? Your lifespan is suddenly shortened and goes into a crash and burn?

Nevertheless, California Gov. Newsom has ordered bars to close, restaurants to halt indoor dining in LA, in other counties. The closures are a reversal of the state’s reopening process amid a sharp uptick in coronavirus cases Newsom announced a new round of lockdown measures ordering 19 counties to close all indoor operations for several business sectors, including restaurants, as the state grapples with a resurgence of coronavirus cases.

In addition to bars being forced to shut down temporarily, restaurants, wineries, movie theaters, family entertainment venues, zoos, museums, and cardrooms must halt operations in selected communities, Newsom said that businesses can continue to operate if they can move operations outdoors.

When people said the protests are the reason for the surge in new cases, they then come out with a study claiming that they were not the reason for the surge despite the fact they did not wear masks and did not socially distance. They simply roll out studies to support whatever they want any more. We are the cause of a surge because you go out to dinner or shop at the local store for food. So, get a t-shirt that says Black Lives Matter and say you are protesting and you can go out without a mask because CNN has confirmed as along as you protest, you will not get the virus. It seems to be a very intelligent virus like no other in history.

New York COVID Compliance Authority Issue Subpoenas Requiring Forced Depositions With Contact Tracers…


Comrades, the ministry of COVID compliance in New York has now been given permission to issue subpoenas requiring the general public to comply with COVID compliance contact tracers.  Any New Yorker who refuses to answer the interrogation questions by the COVID compliance police is now subject to arrest.

You do not have the right to remain silent, and everything you say will be guaranteed to be used against you as the state takes control over your life.

The process of “Contact Tracing” permits the state authority to identify the travel, contacts and associated risks presented by anyone who tests positive for the COVID-19 virus.

A positive test now results in a new class of citizen, considered of such a significant risk that their constitutional rights are suspended.   Thus, it is in the interest of state security for the state to have legal authority to compel compliance with questioning.

Additionally, if a parent tests positive, it may become necessary for the state to control that person’s activity; which may include the removal of any children into the care of the state; saving the minor child from the risk their parent(s) represent.  There is a myriad of new roles and responsibilities for the state in the life of a person who tests positive.

NEW YORK – Officials in New York’s Rockland County said Wednesday they are being forced to issue subpoenas to compel people to speak to contact tracers about a coronavirus outbreak because they are not speaking voluntarily.

The country’s health commissioner, Patricia Rupert, said at a news conference that subpoenas are being issued to eight people who were infected at a recent party in Clarkstown, N.Y., north of New York City, but who are refusing to cooperate with contact tracers seeking to interview them to determine who else they were in contact with and could be at risk of spreading the virus.

The drastic step of issuing subpoenas in a contact-tracing investigation illustrates a problem officials have cited around the country, that many people are not answering their phones or cooperating when contact tracers try to talk to them.

Public health officials say contact tracing is a key step in slowing the spread of the coronavirus. The process interviews infected people about who they have been in contact with so that those people can be notified and asked to quarantine for 14 days to prevent further spread of the virus. (read more)

Big Tech is working to facilitate the effort of the State, and will assist the COVID compliance police with identifying your travel.  If you resist the efforts of the tracers to identify your location; and/or if you resist the effort of the state to place you into a quarantine facility; you will likely be identified as a subversive citizen, an “enemy of the state.”

We might anticipate to see an underground railroad for those attempting to avoid capture.  This is all becoming very disconcerting….  Where does it end?