Nielsen Ratings Show 27% Drop in Audience for Second GOP ‘First Loser’ Debate


Posted originally on the CTH on September 28, 2023 | Sundance | 112 Comments

People were wondering how many people were tuned into the Fox Business RNC debate, the second GOP primary debate without Donald Trump.  The answers are in per an NBC review of Nielsen ratings.

Approximately 9.3 million people tuned in to watch the debate on Fox, Fox Business and Univision. That’s a drop of 27% from the first debate which had 12.8 million viewers.

[…] Even though it was broadcast on Fox Business Network, Fox News Channel and Univision, it still attracted roughly 3.4 million fewer viewers than the first GOP debate just one month ago, which was hosted by the Fox News Channel. That’s a decline of 27%. By contrast, the decline between the first and second debates of the 2016 cycle — both of which featured Trump — was just 4%. (link)

The Second ‘First Loser’ Debate was an Embarrassment to the Legacy of Ronald Reagan, But Modern Republicans Just Don’t Care…


Posted originally on the CTH on September 28, 2023 | Sundance 

According to the portly 1% fellow of no political significance, we are all supposed to think “Donald Ducks” is some brilliant labeling by the jerk from Jersey. But in reality, it only shows the complete dissonance of the professional republican class who have hired him to take shots at the leading GOP candidate. If there is a better word than pathetic, use it here.

What the hell did Ramalamadingdong have on top of his head last night? Good grief, if smuggling a Quokka onto the debate stage was a skillset for POTUS, Ramaswamy leads the furriers. Perhaps having to stand next to him was why Nikki Haley had blood coming out of her eyes, her face, her whatever. Sheesh, she’s a nasty person; and that has nothing to do with gender appropriation or misogyny.

As the Daily Mail noted [SEE HERE] the second of the first loser debates showed exactly why Donald Trump is leading the field by 50 points.  President Trump was in Michigan giving an “America-First” voice to the forgotten middle-class, while the professionally republican were stacked up in California talking about who supports Ukraine best.  What an absolute sh*t show.   WATCH (3 mins):

These seven candidates shrunk themselves so much, it’s almost embarrassing.  However, the one takeaway I did realize from watching segments of that fiasco of donor and consultant articulated soundbites, was how different President Trump is from the professionally republican.

After eight years of common sense, pragmatic analysis, simple talk and specific policy prescriptions within the America First agenda as articulated by President Trump, the professionally republican talking points are unwatchable and physically repulsive.

(Daily Mail) – […] ‘You’re afraid of being on the stage and defending your record,’ Christie said. ‘You keep ducking these things… We’re going to call you Donald Duck.’

Doesn’t quite have the ring of ‘Sleepy Joe’ or ‘Crooked Hillary’, does it? The line fell flat.

Ron DeSantis gave it a try.

‘Donald Trump is missing in action,’ DeSantis said. ‘He should be on this stage tonight. He owes it to you to defend his record, where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt, that set the stage for the inflation that we have.’

But Trump was in Detroit, speaking at a rally for striking United Auto Workers, and what he said almost doesn’t matter: In the ultimate power move, he took his stratospheric polling numbers, bolstered by every indictment and judgement that comes down on him, and spent his time with a vanishing American class – the working men and women of the heartland who have long felt abandoned by Democrats and Establishment politicians.

Back in California, there was very little charisma on stage, very little purpose – and instead of joining forces to round-house The Donald, the would-be nominees turned on each other.

Most, it seems, failed to watch back their game-day footage from the first debate.

DeSantis still does that creepy little self-satisfied smile after making a point. His whole body jerks a little, like he’s electrified by what he assumes is his wit or incisiveness.

Mike Pence was as stiff and bloodless as ever, his complexion ghastly.

Vivek Ramaswamy, whose immovable hair grows ever higher, brings to mind nothing more than ‘Spinal Tap’: He has one volume, and it’s always at 11. (read more)

FOX News Discounts Ad Prices for Second First Loser Debate


Posted originally on the CTH on September 27, 2023 | Sundance 

According to a review done by Semafor of ad rates for the second Republican debate, technically the second of the first loser debates, Fox News has massively discounted the price for a 30 second advertisement to run during the broadcast.

[…] Advertisers paid a premium for airtime during the first Republican presidential debate on Fox News, but it looks like they’ll be getting a major discount during round two on Wednesday night.

Semafor reviewed the rates the network shared with one prospective ad buyer for both the first and second GOP primary debates. For the first debate, the cost of a single 30-second spot topped $495,000.

But the same 30-second spot during Wednesday night’s contest would cost just over $200,000.

Another ad buyer did not share the rates for ads running during the first debate, but confirmed that Fox was charging $225,000 for 30-second ads during the broadcast immediately after the event, and $125,000 for 30-second spots during the broadcast before it. (link)

At this point in the contest, the Republican candidates who are not supporting Donald Trump are simply showcasing their own selfish connections to the business end of U.S. politics.  It really is that simple.  These are not patriots who care about our country. These are self-interested representatives of multinational corporations and business interests who are paying for them to oppose Donald Trump.

I saw the following brutal honesty shared via The Twitter which deserves some attention.

“Whenever you hear someone self-describe as a “principled conservative” to differentiate themselves from MAGA, Trump supporters, populists, and common-sense newcomers to the GOP, and urge for a return to the “golden years,” you can confidently laugh it off as blissful ignorance.

For decades, these so-called “principled conservatives” have overseen and actively participated in policymaking that has degraded the family unit, delivered losses on abortion, brought you a 10-yearlong “assault weapons ban,” and ceded greater authority over and involvement of the federal government in education.

Not satisfied with the piecemeal destruction of society that they now bitch about for clicks, these “principled conservatives” carry their feigned outrage and ideological purity to the economic realm, blindly devoting themselves to protecting the interests of global corporate giants while sacrificing American workers at the altar of “free markets.”

When faced with the consequences of their neoliberalism—the displaced workers and their families, once-great American small towns and cities in shambles, the industrial core of the country gutted, and all the social ills that emanate from these realities—the response from these upstanding moralists is to hawkishly scrutinize every dollar that could possibly go toward alleviating some of the pain and suffering they caused.

In other words, “f**k off! you aren’t my concern.”

The false devotion to “fiscal conservatism” wouldn’t be so offensive if it wasn’t so easily discarded when constructing a national security apparatus that violates your constitutional rights, launching failed trillion-dollar regime change wars, providing foreign aid to corrupt oligarchs and regimes in quid pro quo deals, and subsidizing the social welfare expenses of other countries.”  ~ JoMa

That’s a whole bunch of truth.

It’s the exact same thing we have been talking about on these pages since the 2012 fallacy of false choices.

Trump’s Notoriety Turns into Popularity


Armstrong Economics Blog/Politics Re-Posted Aug 28, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

Donald Trump’s notoriety is turning into increased popularity as he has become a martyr of the corrupt political system. He is receiving around-the-clock news coverage. Rallies are taking place in his favor, with a large group amassing outside the Fulton County jail that is composed of every demographic. His mugshot has been seen throughout the world and has been merchandised and sold. In many way his arrest has made him appear more civilian, instead of an elite business mogul he is now just another American battered by an unjust system.

Trump won the first GOP debate without attending as the most discussed candidate was not present. Former President Donald Trump declined the invitation to debate other GOP candidates and instead appeared on Tucker Carlson for a private interview. Trump’s interview was posted to the internet minutes before Fox aired the official debate. Trump received more views on social media than the entire primary, receiving nearly 11 million views within the first four minutes of going live. Candidates who speak unfavorably on the president lose support, as we have seen the opposite with Ramaswamy who has gained favor after proclaiming Trump was a great president. His interview has become one of the most shared videos on social media, ever, and views have surpassed that of the last Super Bowl.

Some of the most prominent historical figures amassed notoriety and popularity after prison. This has been both negative and positive, with Nelson Mandela or even Adolf Hitler as examples of leaders whose popularity spiked after being jailed. A poll by FiveThirtyEight reported by the BBC shows that Trump’s popularity is on the rise. In February, Trump held a two-point lead over Ron DeSantis (41% v 39%). Now, Trump’s support has skyrocketed to 53% while DeSantis is a distant second at 16%.

The people want Trump. The powers that be will not allow him to retake office, which will only cause increased civil unrest. So brace yourself as all hell is going to break loose come 2024.

Perfect – Everything in the First Loser Fox News Debate Summarized in One Singular Moment – Clowns to the Left, Jokers to the Right


Posted Originally on the CTH on August 23, 2023 | Sundance 

There’s no reason to chase down soundbites of Adderall Ron taking Casey’s meds again and nodding wide-eyed like a bobblehead going over a railroad track, or Chris Christie taking coordinated payments from the corporations to hit Trump, or wind-testing Nikki looking to formulate her positions based on audience cheers and jeers, or Mike Pence waxing philosophically about distractions to his swamp defense, or any of the other myriad of transparently obvious motives and intentions of the corporate consulting class.

A person really only needs to watch this one segment to see all of the machinations from Fox News in alignment with the actors on stage.

Starting with the ever-insufferable Martha MacCallum teeing up the pretense with the oft familiar Bret Baier raise your hand question.  There is so much in this segment, you guys -super smart and full of intellectual honesty- just write about it in the comment section, and I will enjoy a non-pretending review.

Full credit to Ramaswamy for his non pretense, and the brilliant stare at Adderall Ron as he awaits the poll testing followers.  Ramaswamy leads, then the South Carolina coalition join, then Bergum goes limp up, then Ron looks over and realizes he better join, which triggers Pence and finally Krispy.   It’s all perfect.  All of it. Perfect in the way it encapsulates the entire field of followers. Just perfect.

Additionally, I cannot stop laughing at the human cabbage patch doll, Bret Baier, needing to turn around to the audience to protect Krispy from the jeers.  Too much funny – all of it.  WATCH:

Vivek Ramaswamy singing:

 …”clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right – here I am, stuck in the middle with snooze”…

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