Privileged Ivy League Students in US Support Terrorism Re-Posted Nov 1, 2023 By Martin Armstrong


Hamas is a terrorist organization. That is not a conspiracy theory and they are not misunderstood. Colleges across the US have erupted in pro-terrorism chaos. Now what if I replaced “Hamas” with the “Taliban,” and asked college kids their unvalued opinions. As you can see from the video above, these students are eager to fund THE TALIBAN due to the anti-American rhetoric spreading across the US educational system.

Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman is an alumnus and major funder of Columbia University. Cooperman has gifted Columbia over $50 million dollars as one of their largest donors“I think these kids at the colleges have s–t for brains,” he explained to a reporter after declaring he will no longer give Columbia another penny. “We have one reliable ally in the Middle East — that’s Israel. We only have one democracy in the Middle East — that’s Israel, okay? And we have one economy tolerant of different people — gays, lesbians, etc. And that’s Israel,” the 80-year-old chairman and CEO of Omega Advisors, a New York-based investment firm with over $3.3 billion in assets, continued.

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Both Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump have promised to deport students on visas promoting terrorism on campus. “You may have a right to say certain things, but that’s material support to terrorism if you’re saying you’re part of what they’re doing, so we deactivated the Students for Justice in Palestine and were the first state to step up to the plate and do that,” DeSantis stated. “They don’t have a right to be here on a student visa. It’s a privilege to be here on a student visa. There’s a lot of Americans that would probably want those slots. There’s other foreign nationals who actually like the United States who would probably want [one].

It is a shame to see how utterly clueless the next generation will be. Government-controlled curriculum has brainwashed the youth into believing the new norm narrative of white guilt and a genderless society that demonizes traditional values. Clearly, they are not teaching the kids history or economics. I assume these will be the first people lining up to receive their chips and digital IDs. Education must begin at home with parents providing a moral code of conduct for the youth because America’s education system is guaranteed to steer them in the wrong direction.

Remarkable Report: 300 Miles of Hamas Tunnels, 200 ft Below Gaza


Posted originally on the CTH on October 31, 2023 | Sundance 

Again, something not feeling right about this story from The Daily Mail relay.  Apparently, at some recent moment before the October 7, 2023 Hamas terrorist attack, a reporter from Russia Today was given a tour of Hamas tunnels below Gaza.  According to the article, there are approximately 300 miles of the tunnels, with some reaching 200 ft below the surface.

The engineering to build tunnels at a depth of 200 ft (60 meters) below the surface is a remarkable claim (think proximity to sea level).  The scale of the tunnels at 300 miles under such a small geographic region is another element that seems quite remarkable.  The report, originating from Russia Today, coming on the heels of western intelligence trying to frame Russia in connection to an alignment with Hamas, puts another element into the Suspicious Cat review.  The report almost seems too defensive and conveniently timed.  That said, it’s not impossible, just remarkable if true.

(Via Daily Mail) – […] A Russia Today (RT) reporter was allowed a rare visit inside the so-called ‘Gaza Metro’ which snakes for up to 300 miles under the war-torn enclave.

As the clip emerged, senior Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk was asked by another RT interviewer why they didn’t allow the beleaguered civilian population to shelter from the bombing in the tunnels.

His reply spoke volumes: ‘Protecting Gaza civilians is the responsibility of the UN and Israel…We have built the tunnels to protect ourselves from getting targeted and killed. These are meant to protect us from the airplanes.’

The RT journalist entered the network by being lowered by an electric hoist 200ft (60m) below the ground.

[…] Hamas’s military engineers have become skilled at rigging up the concrete-lined tunnels and installing ventilation, electric lighting and telephone lines, all of which can be seen as the reporter makes his way among the terrorists.

Terrorists can also be seen running along the tunnels in the film carrying weapons and meanwhile others are digging by hand to extend the network still further. (read more)

If Hamas is indeed this dug in, (a) that means they have spent an incredible amount of time and money building this labyrinth; and (b) that would also explain the extreme dangers of this kind of warfare.   Even bunker busting bombs would have difficulty with this claimed scale of depth.

Quite remarkable if true.

For that reason, in combination with the accepted psychological warfare that surrounds both the Ukraine war narrative and the Israeli war Gaza narrative, Engineering Suspicious Cat remains, well, suspicious…

Anthony Blinken: Putin Is Hamas


Posted originally on the CTH on October 31, 2023 | Sundance 

Just to put a fine point on the motives of the intelligence operation that took place in Dagestan, Russia, at the Makhachkala airport {Go Deep}, today we see Secretary of State Anthony Blinken saying, Putin is Hamas.

The arc and motive of the narrative is transparently obvious.  The Makhachkala Airport operation was the affirmational seed, created by Ukraine operative Ponomaryov – in coordination with CIA and the State Dept. – for the necessary narrative.

As the story is told, Vladimir Putin is in ideological alignment with Hamas…. Therefore, support for Israel against Hamas is synonymous with support for Ukraine against Russia…. Therefore, funding for the Israeli War is synonymous with funding for Ukraine…. Therefore, the financial mechanism to fund Israel cannot be separated from the financial mechanism to support Ukraine.

See how that works?

Watch Secretary of State Anthony Blinken make the connection today (prompted):

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“We see these things as being very much joined, which is one of the reasons why our joint request is a joint request”… 

Once you see the strings on the marionettes, you can never return to that moment in the performance when you did not see them….

The producers think we cannot see them!

To cue up another audio-visual example of the need to push this western intelligence operation, check out this tweet:

Can you see it now? 

The people in control of our government and intelligence apparatus do not think we can see this.  We can!

The manipulative narrative is transparent.

Help your friends and social circle to understand what is happening.

“We see these things as being very much joined, which is one of the reasons why our joint request is a joint request”… 

Elon Musk Powers Gaza – Open Communications Amid War


Armstrong Economics Blog/War Re-Posted Oct 31, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

Israel has stripped Gaza of all electricity, and over 2.2 million people no longer have access to basic necessities. Elon Musk announced over the weekend that he would send Starlink connectivity to Gaza. “Starlink will support connectivity to internationally recognized aid organizations in Gaza,” Musk posted on X.

A billionaire’s net worth provides more than money can buy. Musk has the ability to intervene in international affairs on his own accord. Palestine did not ask Musk for help; he simply decided to provide it on his own. Musk provided Starlink connectivity to Ukraine after Ukrainian officials urged him to help the innocent people living there. He was celebrated in the media as a hero for powering Ukraine, but now, he is being villainized for his efforts to help the people of Palestine.

Israel is angered that their communication blackout is coming to an end. Israel’s Communications Minister Shlomo Karhi promised, “Israel will use all means at its disposal to fight this.” He continued, “HAMAS will use it for terrorist activities. There is no doubt about it, we know it, and Musk knows it. HAMAS is ISIS. Perhaps Musk would be willing to condition it with the release of our abducted babies, sons, daughters, elderly people. All of them! By then, my office will cut any ties with Starlink.”

The United Nations and World Health Organization have said they have been unable to reach their people on the ground in Palestine. The world condemned Russia for committing a war crime, but it is ok when Israel and the West use these tactics against civilians.

Another game changer in this war is X, formerly known as Twitter. Musk is not deplatforming people who disagree with the narrative. In fact, absolutely everyone is taking to X to express their views, including members of Hamas. This is one of the last platforms for free speech without censorship. Musk is using his wealth and technology for the greater good. Time will tell if the powers that be have the power to cancel an influential tech billionaire.

Tucker Carlson and Nigel Farage Discuss Importing Refugees from Gaza


Posted originally on the CTH on October 30, 2023 | Sundance 

Tucker Carlson and Nigel Farage discuss the increasingly loud voices who are saying western democracies need to accept Hamas sympathetic refugees from Gaza. WATCH: 

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Did Socrates Predict the 2014 Gaza War?


Armstrong Economics Blog/War Re-Posted Oct 30, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

Biden has been escalating tensions in the Middle East since he entered politics. In 2013, then-Vice President Biden used his favorite line: “If there were not an Israel, we would have to invent one to make sure our interests were preserved.” Now, our models noted that the beginning of the global conflict we are facing would unfold in 2014. All eyes were on Ukraine during the revolution in 2014, but the embers of war were also burning in the Middle East.

Israel and Palestine held peace talks in 2013, with the US stepping in and deciding how the borders would be redrawn. A year later in 2014, precisely on target, Israel launched an attack that culminated in the 2014 Gaza War. After Hamas murdered three Israeli teens, Israeli Defense Forces launched Operation Brother’s Keeper. The conflict between Israel and Palestine lasted seven weeks as both sides launched rockets to and from the Gaza Strip. Both sides claimed victory — Israel believed that they successfully achieved revenge, while Hamas claimed they held off Israeli forces.

Simultaneously, the Obama Administration was heavily sanctioning Iran. “America’s support for Israel’s security is unshakable, period,” Biden said in 2013. America wanted to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and threatening their stronghold in the Middle East. Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of performing a “charm offensive” on the West. “We have seen nothing from Netanyahu but lies and actions to deceive and scare, and international public opinion will not let these lies go unanswered,” Zarif said in an interview. “For 22 years, the Zionist regime has been lying by repeating endlessly that Iran will have the atomic bomb in six months,” Zarif said. “The world must understand the reality of these lies and not allow them to be repeated.”

Then, the Iranian deal in 2016 ensured that Iran would never have a nuclear weapons program. Trump withdrew from the deal in 2018 as Iran did not hold up its agreement. Trump placed sanctions on Iranian banking and oil, and claimed that the initial deal did not address Iran’s ballistic missile program. Iran has been attempting to build up its nuclear powers in recent years, leading to the assassination of its top nuclear scientist.

Israel is the West’s ticket to nuclear and military power in the Middle East. Peace talks have repeatedly failed as the West will only permit their interests to prevail. Hamas has been attempting to destroy Israel since the group came into existence and does not want peace. The neocons and those profiting big on the military-industrial complex do not want peace. Just as you cannot alter the business cycle, you cannot alter the war cycle that has been churning precisely on target.

Israeli Defense Forces Begin Enhanced Operations Against Hamas in Gaza


Posted originally on the CTH on October 27, 2023

It’s not the ground invasion; it’s a larger tactical strike operation with pauses to gain overhead intel.  Without any doubt, the targeting and ordinance is from the command and control of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), but the aerial feeds (in review) are likely U.S. DoD support flowing directly back to the IDF.

Israel appears to be ramping up the direct targeting of Hamas operations in Gaza.  Unfortunately, Hamas has the mechanics of their terror machine enmeshed with the civilian population centers and key infrastructure.  This allows Hamas to conduct Pallywood propaganda operations in the aftermath.  Culturally, the Palestinian people live amid a social value system that rewards victimhood – the more dramatic, the more useful.

(Via Daily Mail) –  Israeli warplanes have tonight unleashed airstrikes of ‘unprecedented’ intensity across all parts of the Gaza strip, as it announced it was ‘expanding’ its ground forces’ operations.

The aerial onslaught came with a warning from the IDF to Palestinian civilians still living in Gaza to move south as soon as possible, amid fears that the long-awaited ground invasion of the enclave may take place within hours. 

The bombing, which observers described as much more ferocious and louder than previous days, coincided with electricity and communications blackouts in much of the besieged enclave. 

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According to one report the Israelis even unleashed ‘bunker buster’ concussion missiles to try and destroy the extensive Hamas tunnel network under Gaza.

IDF spokesperson Daniel Hagari telling reporters at a press conference today: ‘In recent hours we have increased the attacks in Gaza.

‘The air force widely attacks underground targets and terrorist infrastructure, very significantly.

‘In continuation of the offensive activity we carried out in the last few days, the ground forces are expanding the ground activity this evening.’ (read more)

The Israeli war against Hamas is likely to be a long duration event, encompassing several months.  The network of tunnels that Hamas has developed under the Gaza strip will have to be targeted methodically in order to try and minimize “civilian” casualties.  However, the tunnels are located in places for maximum “human shielding” such as the Shifa Hospital – example above.

We end up watching something akin to a catch-22.  Israel can only take this methodical approach, lasting several months, because the U.S. presence is deterring other foreign actors from getting involved.  Without the U.S. military presence, the slow and deliberate process of trying to avoid civilian casualties would have to be a lot faster and likely create more collateral damage.

Last point, as we watch the international news feeds of ground reporting on the Israeli War, I again note there was nothing even remotely similar to this type of 24/7 footage from Ukraine.  It is a striking contrast to pause and consider the difference between the two conflicts as represented by real time media footage.

Did Socrates Forecast The Israeli Invasion?


Armstrong Economics Blog/Israel Re-Posted Oct 26, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

QUESTION: Socrates appears to have picked the Hamas Attack. There was a double Directional change on the currency for the week of October 2nd and then two more directional changes for the following two weeks. There are rumors that people knew it was coming and were buying Northrop Gruman shares the week before. Am I reading correctly that Socrates picked this up in advance because people were positioning themselves in advance?

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ANSWER: This is how Socrates has been forecasting such events. As I have said many times at conferences, I began to understand this back in the 1980s. Those who know of such events start to move the money in advance. Socrates picked up a Double Direction Change the week of September 11th. The previous week was the lowest weekly closing on Northrop Gruman. The main turning point was the week of October 2nd. This showed up in the currency as well, confirming that the target zone was Israel. The same was true looking around at the surrounding economies.

We will address this complex tope at the WEC Nov 17-19th.

The Game Continues – Hamas Releases Two More Elderly Hostages, Keeps Their Husbands


Posted originally on the CTH on October 23, 2023 | Sundance 

If you drop the pretending, it becomes crystal clear to see the hostages are being used as leverage to stop a counteroffensive by the Israeli military.  The Obama/Biden administration alignment with Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), permeates the media narrative with calls to negotiate terms for peace and hostage release.

As we expected, Benjamin Netanyahu is being painted into a corner by the Biden administration who are using the U.S. military presence as a shield to force Israel to follow the approved program of the U.S. government.   Biden, et al, want to protect Hamas while simultaneously calling residents of Gaza “victims” to the interests of Hamas and the PIJ.

With 200+ hostages held by Hamas, and up to another 50 held by PIJ, the slow drip of successful hostage release negotiations becomes the justification to stopping the Israeli War counteroffensive.

The two hostages released, Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, and Nurit Cooper, 79, were taken out of Gaza at the Rafah crossing into Egypt, where they were put into ambulances.  However, their elderly husbands were kept behind.  The two women, along with their husbands, were snatched from their homes in the kibbutz of Nir Oz near the Gaza border during Hamas’ Oct. 7 rampage into southern Israeli communities.

WASHINGTON – […]  Israel is widely expected to launch a ground offensive in Gaza, vowing to destroy Hamas. Iranian-backed fighters around the region are warning of possible escalation if that happens, including targeting U.S. forces deployed in the Mideast.

The U.S. has told Iranian-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon and other groups not to join the fight. Israel and Hezbollah have traded fire almost daily across the Israel-Lebanon border, and Israeli warplanes have struck targets in the occupied West Bank, Syria and Lebanon in recent days.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said there had been an uptick in rocket and drone attacks by Iranian-backed militias on U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria, and the U.S. was “deeply concerned about the possibility for any significant escalation” in attacks in coming days.

He said U.S. officials were having “active conversations” with Israeli counterparts about the potential ramifications of escalated military action.

The U.S. advised Israeli officials that delaying a ground offensive would give Washington more time to work with regional mediators on securing the release of more hostages, according to a U.S. official.

Israeli tanks and ground forces have been massed at the Gaza border, and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told troops there Monday to keep preparing for an offensive “because it will come.” He said it will be a combined offensive from air, land and sea but did not give a timeframe. (read more)

Sunday Talks – Anthony Blinken Discusses U.S. Plans for Iranian Involvement in Israeli War


Posted originally on the CTH on October 22, 2023

Anthony Blinken appears on CBS Face the Nation to discuss the U.S. response to the Israeli war against Hamas terrorists. Margaret Brennan clutches her pearls and gives her best defense of Hamas/Palestinian terrorists. But the babies and the children, or something; all of that is propaganda. WATCH:

[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who is at the State Department. Good morning to you, Mr. Secretary.

SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN: Morning, Margaret, good to be with you.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Tension is very high in the region. Are you changing your security posture? Are you pulling any US personnel out of the area?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Margaret, we are concerned at the possibility of Iranian proxies, escalating their attacks against our own personnel, our own people. We’re taking every measure to make sure that we can defend them and if necessary, respond decisively. Not at all what we’re looking for, not all we want, but we’ll be prepared, if that’s what they choose to do.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So it sounds like quite possibly pulling people out. In terms of the threat from Iran, you just referenced there, President Biden in his Oval Office address said that the U.S. would hold Iran accountable. What does accountable mean?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Well, what you’ve seen already, Margaret is very- a very clear message from the President, backed up by the deployment of two of our largest aircraft carrier battle groups, to make sure that it’s clear. No one should take advantage of this moment to escalate to further attacks on Israel or for that matter attacks on us, on our personnel. And this is not by way of, in terms of what we’re doing by provocation, it’s designed to deter, designed to make clear that no one should use this moment in any way to escalate. No one wants a second front, a third front, and at the same time, we want to make sure that our own people in the region, wherever they are, are safe and protected, and that we’re in a place as we are to respond decisively if we need to. The President’s been clear about that, both in what he said and in what we’re doing.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ll stay tuned. In terms of what’s happening in Gaza. I know there are an estimated 500-600 Americans there. There are only two ways out. One is through the Rafah gate to Egypt. It does not appear any Americans have made it out that way. There’s also another Erez Crossing into Israel. Is there any chance Israel lets some of those Americans out or Egypt allows some of those Americans in?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: We have- you’re exactly right. We have several hundred Americans and other nationalities, other civilians from- from other countries who want to leave Gaza. We’ve had people come to Rafah, the crossing with Egypt. And to date, at least, Hamas has blocked them from leaving, showing once again, its total disregard for civilians of any kind who are- who are stuck in Gaza. This is something that we’re working, again, virtually every single day. We have in the- right now in the region on the ground, one of our most experienced diplomats, David Satterfield, working with the different governments concerned with- with Israel, with Egypt, to make sure that we’re ready to be able to get people out, assuming Hamas lets them move. So really, the ball is in Hamas’ court, in terms of letting people who want to leave, civilians from third countries including Americans get out of Gaza.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Just to be clear, you’re saying Hamas is preventing Americans from leaving Gaza?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: That’s correct.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And there are no US personnel who are able to help on the ground?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: We have U.S. personnel on the other side of the border in Egypt, consular personnel who can immediately help and assist those Americans who want to leave. We’re working this very, very actively every day, including with partners who may have influenced connections with Hamas that we don’t have, to make sure that people can get out. So we’re tracking this. We want to make sure it happens.

MARGARET BRENNAN: In terms of the Americans who are believed to be unaccounted for or potentially hostages. Does Hamas have all of them or do other militant groups have them?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Look, you’ll understand I can’t speak to the – to the details of this. We’ve been engaged from virtually the first day of this. I don’t want to be clear when it was clear that Hamas had taken men, women, young children, elderly people hostage, including Americans. It was really gratifying. Yesterday, I got a chance to speak to the two Americans, the mother, daughter, Judith and Natalie Raanan, who were released. I spoke to them. We are very appreciative of the assistance that we got from the Government of Qatar, to make sure that they could get out and now soon be reunited with their families. We’re hopeful that- that others follow. It is imperative that every single hostage, every single hostage of whatever nationality, be released immediately and without condition.

MARGARET BRENNAN: But the Israeli invasion appears imminent. Have you asked the Israeli government to delay in order to give you more time to broker the release of these hostages?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: First, step back for a second, because it’s important to remember what happened. It’s incredible how quickly that gets lost because it was only a couple of weeks ago that Hamas invaded Israel with its terrorist fighters and slaughtered – and I use that- that word very deliberately- slaughtered so many people again, men, women, young children, babies, old people, you name it. And they continue to rain rockets down on Israel when I was there. A few days ago, we were in the bomb – we were- we had to take shelter a couple of times, because of incoming rockets from Hamas. So, my point is this, no country- no country can be expected to tolerate this, to live with this. And as we said, from the start, Israel has both the the right and even the obligation, not only to defend itself, but to try to make sure that, to the best of its ability, this can’t happen again. So, we talked to the Israelis about what they’re- what they’re planning. We give them our best advice. It’s important, as we said, not only what they do, but how they do it, particularly when it comes to making sure that civilians are as protected as they possibly can be in this crossfire of Hamas’ making. We want to make sure that humanitarian assistance gets in and both countries care deeply about the- the hostages. There are many, many Israelis who are hostage and of course, hostages from other nationalities. So we’re working to do everything we can, using whatever levers, partnerships, relationships, we have to get them out. Israel is doing the same. But in terms of what we’re talking to Israel about in their- with regard to their military operations, it really is focused on both how they do it, and how best to achieve the results that they seek.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, let’s talk about how they do it. You’re right to lay out just how absolutely horrific that attack was two weeks ago. Turning the page to what has happened during the following two weeks, UNICEF says 1,524 children have been killed in the Gaza Strip during these bombings. Why isn’t the US calling for at least a temporary ceasefire?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: First, Margaret, when I hear the stories, when I see the pictures of young children, who have lost their lives in this conflict of Hamas’ making- whoever they are, wherever they are, whether they’re Palestinians, whether they’re Israelis, whether they’re- they’re Jews or Muslims. It hits me, and I know it hits virtually everyone right in the heart. And that’s why it’s so important to do everything possible to protect them, and why it’s so important to do everything possible to get assistance to those who need it. Food, medicine, water-

MARGARET BRENNAN: So why not ask for at least a temporary pause in the bombing–

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We’ve seen-

MARGARET BRENNAN: — as was proposed at the UN this week?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: We’ve seen first of all that, in order to get assistance in. We’ve had, we’ve had that happen. And you saw the first 20 trucks go in yesterday, I expect more will follow today and the day after that. We want to make sure that we have sustained delivery of food, medicine, water, the things that people need. At the same time, I said something a minute ago that- that we have to- we have to remember. Israel has to do everything it can to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Freezing things in place where they are now would allow Hamas to remain where it is and to repeat what it’s done sometime in the future. No country could accept that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: One of my colleagues, who is on the ground in Israel and has traveled to the West Bank conducted an interview with Mr. Mustafa Barghouti, a Palestinian politician, I’m sure, you know. He said he doesn’t understand why President Biden, when he was in Israel, did not say “enough is enough. You wanted to respond and you responded, you killed 4,000 Palestinians. Stop.” Instead, you’re encouraging a ground invasion. How do you respond to “enough is enough?”

SECRETARY BLINKEN: “Enough is enough” should have been the case with- with Hamas two weeks ago. It would be good to hear the entire world speaking clearly, and with one voice, about the actions that Hamas took, about the slaughter of people, about the fact that that should be absolutely intolerable, unacceptable to anyone, anywhere, any country, any people. Second, as I said, for- for a country to not only not respond- it’s not about responding. It’s not about retaliating. It’s about defending Israel from these ongoing attacks. As I said, the rockets continue to this day. And it’s about taking the steps necessary to try to make sure, to the best of Israel’s ability, that this can’t happen again. Now, as we said, very clearly, the President’s been very clear about this- how Israel does that matters. Making sure that to the greatest extent possible civilians are protected. Civilians are deliberately put in the crossfire by Hamas. Hamas undertook the slaughter. It knew Israel would have to respond and yet all of its people, its senior leaders, its weapons, its tunnels, all are co-located in residential buildings. They’re buried underneath hospitals and schools. It knew that in Israel’s necessary response, civilians would be caught in that crossfire. It’s the last thing we want to see. It’s imperative that every step be taken to protect them. But what does anyone expect Israel to do? It can’t allow the situation to continue. No country can live like that. So that’s what’s- I think, in the minds of Israelis right now. Again, we’re speaking to them, as I said, about how they do it, and also how they can best achieve the results that they seek.

MARGARET BRENNAN: In terms of US interests in the region, one of America’s closest allies, the King of Jordan, gave an impassioned speech saying “Palestinian lives seem to matter less than Israeli ones. Our lives matter less than other lives, the application of international law is optional and human rights appear to have boundaries based on races and religions.” That’s a warning from one of America’s closest friends in the region, that this is a dangerous message to be sending and it could have blowback. Are you concerned?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Margaret, every life- Palestinian, Israeli, Jewish, Muslim, Arab, every life has equal worth. When I see the reports, when I see the photographs, when I hear the stories of young children, Palestinian children, who’ve been killed or injured, it hits me right in the gut too. Just as it does, when I hear- when I see these other stories, wherever it is. We had, here in our own country, a little boy, six-years-old, Wadea, in Chicago, who was viciously murdered, apparently, because he was Palestinian American. A little boy, six-years-old, didn’t do anything to anyone. I feel that strongly across the board, no matter where it is. But this is on Hamas. And the fact is, Hamas doesn’t represent the Palestinian people. It doesn’t represent their just cause, it doesn’t represent their aspiration, and legitimate aspiration for a state of their own. On the contrary, it does everything to make life worse, and more miserable for–

MARGARET BRENNAN: Does the US assess that it is actually possible for Israel to destroy both Hamas as an entity and its ideology. Is it actually a military possibility?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: So, you make a very good point, Margaret. And I think it’s important to focus on that, too. There’s the military aspect of what Israel needs to do and try it- and try to make sure this doesn’t happen again. But you’re exactly right. The best way, the only way to defeat an ideology, no matter how warped, and the case of Hamas, it’s about as warped as it possibly can be, is to make sure that there is a better, a clearer alternative for people. And that alternative is very clear. And it’s very stark. We have on the one hand, countries throughout the region who want to come together, to integrate, to normalize relations, and to lift up the rights of the Palestinian people, to be able to have a future where they work together, go to school together, do business together, travel to each other’s countries. That’s one vision. The other vision is the vision that Hamas has: death, destruction, nihilism, darkness. Now, the responsibility that those of us who believe in the first vision have is to do everything possible to make it real, so that people not only see it, but they can achieve it. That’s exactly what we were working on before this horrific attack on October 7th. And that’s the vision that we need to get back to. But at the same time, we also have to deal with the fact that Hamas represents an active, ongoing threat, and that has to be dealt with too.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mr. Secretary, thank you for your time this morning.

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Thanks, Margaret.

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