Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…


In the last 24 hours The Epoch Times has become a conduit for leaked information from inside the joint House congressional committee (Oversight/Judiciary) that was investigating DOJ and FBI corruption. [Two Stories: See Here and See Here]

The joint House committee previously requested approval from the DOJ and FBI for transcripts of all witness testimony to be released.  In response, Deputy FBI Director David Bowditch, citing possible interference with the Mueller investigation, refused to release the transcripts.  However, it appears someone from within the committee, likely Mark Meadows, following a pattern previously exclusive to John Solomon (The Hill), is now leaking those witness transcripts to The Epoch Times.

The leaked transcripts are not being made available; however, articles are being written from those who are reviewing them.  The first is an article by Jeff Carlson about the testimony by former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.  It is a lengthy article and I would urge all who are interested in her testimony to read it: SEE HERE.  There is a wealth of new information that fills in many of the gaps from prior research.

One of the immediately interesting aspects of the Page testimony goes directly to the issue of why the witness transcripts are not being released, and the inherent risk to the small group inside the DOJ and FBI who were coordinating the Clinton and Trump probes.

Lisa Page outlines the people who were at the center of the “small group team” within the FBI (emphasis mine):

[…]  Although Page admitted to a personal dislike for Trump, she also admitted to a less-than-favorable view of Hillary Clinton, noting that while she did not like then-candidate Trump, she “wasn’t particularly fond or favorable toward Secretary Clinton. Page summed her position up thusly: “I mean, given a Trump-Clinton race, yes, I was supporting Clinton, but I was not a particularly big fan of hers.”

The role of FBI agent Jonathan Moffa, currently a deputy assistant director at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, may have been greater than previously understood. Page noted that most of the FBI personnel involved in the Clinton and Trump-Russia investigations were separate from each other—they worked on one investigation or the other.

Strzok and Moffa, both from the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, worked on both investigations, as Page noted:

“Really it’s the people that met with Jim Comey. Those are the only people that were really the same with respect to both teams. So it’s the same general counsel, the same deputy general counsel, me, Mr. McCabe, Dave Bowdich. The EAD for National Security Branch changed, but that was just because of regular personnel turnover.  (read more)

Many of us were trying to figure out how David Bowditch rose to the level of Deputy FBI Director under Chris Wray.  [Bowditch was previously the FBI field office head for the San Bernardino terrorist attack investigation in California]  Now we see that Bowditch was at the center of the small group in Washington DC who were doing the Trump investigation.

This reconciles why the current FBI is blocking the release of the witness transcripts.  Do you remember who told congress a few weeks ago that any transcript releases may interfere with the Mueller investigation?…

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Yes, that would be David Bowditch.   Obviously, Bowditch is following a very familiar pattern.  DOJ and FBI officials who are directly connected to the previous corruption have a vested self-interest in controlling the sunlight upon them.

Despite their claims, don’t be tricked into thinking it’s about timing, and/or a workload, and/or the holidays (per letter).  How do we know this?

Well, remember, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Chaired by Devin Nunes, made a similar request for release of their transcripts on September 26th, 2018.  The DOJ, FBI and Special Counsel have refused to comply for four months.  They intended to drag this out as a defense strategy to hide their own duplicity.   Hence, the likelihood Mark Meadows (or someone similar) is frustrated and has now started leaking transcripts to The Epoch Times.

Mueller’s investigation always held an ulterior purpose:

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for ideologically aligned deep state officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe; and/or block IG Horowitz from seeing material related to the FISA abuse scandal and “spygate”.  In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.

There’s a hell of a lot more to be learned from the Lisa Page testimony, specifically about the role of the CIA in the overall operation…  However, for me personally, her outline of Bowditch in the main FBI DC office -as connected to the larger investigation- completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.

DAG Rod Rosenstein was hired by President Trump at the direction of, and request of, AG Jeff Sessions.   Rosenstein then recommended that President Trump hire FBI Director Chris Wray (a transparently useful idiot)….. Director Wray then hired David Bowditch as his deputy AND re-hired Dana Boente as FBI chief-legal-counsel.

The picture we get here is how the 2015/2016 officials within the corrupt DOJ and FBI enterprise, were put into higher office in the Trump administration 2017/2018; and those same officials are currently occupying positions that allow them to keep their prior corrupt activity hidden.

This whole thing is FUBAR.

Pence, McCarthy, Scalise and Thune Describe White House Meeting With Intransigent Democrats…


Vice President Mike Pence, Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Minority Whip Steve Scalise and Senate Majority Whip John Thune describe the events at a White House meeting with President Trump, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Hoyer, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senator Dick Durbin….  Things did not go well:

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It would appear congress is at loggerheads over border security, with democrats unwilling to provide any funding that might secure the southern border.  Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer have stated the border is secure; there are no illegal border crossings actually taking place; and there is no crisis.  As such, the partial government shutdown continues.

Cancer Sidelines Progressive Justice: Rejoice?


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Democrat Rebuttal – Pelosi and Schumer Appeal for Destruction of a Borderless Nation…


Rule #1:  try not to look creepy as hell…

Rule #2:  try not to appear evil in disposition…

Whoopsie…

Let the memes begin:

Video:

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House GOP Leadership Press Briefing on Border Issues…


Following a meeting between Vice-President Mike Pence, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and acting WH chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney, the House leadership team (Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise and Liz Cheney) deliver remarks to the capitol press:

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White House – We are no longer in a status quo situation at the Southern Border but in a crisis situation. Status quo funding is not enough.

  • In fiscal year (FY) 2018, 17,000 adults at the border with existing criminal records were arrested by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and border agents.
  • In FY2017 and FY2018, ICE officers arrested approximately 235,000 aliens on various criminal charges or convictions within the interior of the United States—including roughly 100,000 for assault, 30,000 for sex crimes, and 4,000 for homicides.
  • We are now averaging 60,000 illegal and inadmissible aliens a month on our Southern Border.

 

  • Last month alone, more than 20,000 minors were smuggled into the United States.
  • The immigration court backlog is nearly 800,000 cases.
  • There has been a 2,000 percent increase in asylum claims over the last five years, with the largest growth coming from Central America—while around 9 in 10 claims from Central American migrants are ultimately rejected by the immigration courts, the applicant has long since been released into the interior of the United States.
  • In FY2017, roughly 135,000 illegal and inadmissible family units arrived from Central America. Of those, less than 2 percent have been successfully removed from the country due to a shortage of resources and glaring loopholes in our federal laws.
  • So far in FY2019, we have seen a 280 percent increase in family units from FY2018.
  • 300 Americans are killed every week from heroin—90 percent of which floods across our Southern Border.
  • Illegal immigration is a humanitarian crisis: 1 in 3 migrant women is sexually assaulted on the journey northward to the U.S. border; 50 illegal migrants a day are referred for emergency medical care; and CBP rescues 4,300 people a year who are in danger and distress.
  • (Link to Data)

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/396841101/content?start_page=1&view_mode=&access_key=key-8KbUi3rl0m1fSsUHRwqr

 

Comeuppance: Broward Sheriff Scott Israel Informs Staff He is Being Suspended by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis…


Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was inaugurated today and moments later reports surface from the Miami Herald that corrupt Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel is packing up his office and preparing to be suspended.   Let us hope this is accurate….

(Via Miami Herald) It appears that Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel is preparing to pack up his office.

The two-term sheriff, the object of fierce criticism over BSO’s handling of the Parkland massacre, told his top commanders that he will be removed from office by Gov. Ron DeSantis, sources have told the Miami Herald.

DeSantis, who was sworn in Tuesday morning, had not made a formal announcement of a possible suspension. Israel’s discussions with staff about his ouster was first reported by Miami New Times.

[…] Jeff Bell, BSO’s union chief, said Israel told his staff on Monday that his ouster was inevitable.

“We know that he is telling everyone at the public safety building that he is going to be gone,’’ said Bell, who was at DeSantis’ swearing-in ceremony in Tallahassee on Tuesday.

Several candidates have been mentioned as possible replacements, including former Broward Sheriff Al Lamberti, a Republican like DeSantis. But Bell would not indicate whether the union was backing anyone.  (read more)

The 2013 Broward County School Board policy known as the “Promise Program“.

The Promise Program is the collaborative policy between all county officials the school superintendent, school board and law enforcement that instructs officers to not arrest high school students.  This policy sits at the center of understanding why mass shooter Nikolas Cruz was not intercepted by law enforcement.

The school officers are the primary foot soldiers carrying out county political policy (must keep statistics protected). Actual physical security of school students is not their primary role, they don’t have time for that. The Broward County school officer is in place to protect the school system “policy” and ensure students are not arrested for criminal conduct.

If you begin reviewing the downstream consequences with a correct understanding of the originating policy objectives then everything begins to make sense. You can see from the program outline the scale of the agreement and which parties contributed to the policy. Here’s the program in pdf form:

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/372308388/content?start_page=1&view_mode=&access_key=key-0iMhxYwV4TCs3Pntpn0x

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Now WATCH:

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Consequence:

Jim Jordan, Doug Collins and Mark Meadows Take Action to Expose Ongoing DOJ Institutional Fraud…


House Judiciary Committee, ranking member Doug Collins, together with Jim Jordan (ranking member Oversight), and Representative Mark Meadows, begin questioning U.S. Attorney John Huber in their effort to expose the biggest current DOJ con job.

In a letter to U.S. Attorney John Huber (full pdf below), Collins, Jordan and Meadows begin the formal process to expose a widely believed fraud.

A misinformation campaign has been waged to give the appearance of an investigation that does not exist.  There is ZERO factual evidence of any investigative action underway by U.S. Attorney Huber, beyond speculation and supposition.

Here is the full letter:

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/397001574/content?start_page=1&view_mode=&access_key=key-9tmSsSuLRgQpcbcFyzP2

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Last month investigative journalist Paul Sperry posted an interesting report at RCP-Investigations outlining numerous interviews with DC politicians and would-be witnesses, if any actual DOJ investigation of the FBI and DOJ misconduct was taking place.

What Sperry discovered is the year-long narrative around John Huber and Michael Horowitz is factually false. [SEE HERE]

Just like the false framework surrounding the long-forgotten U.S. Attorney John Lausch; the guy who was supposedly hired to facilitate DOJ record production but actually did nothing of the sort; Sperry discovered the framework around U.S. Attorney John Huber was manufactured by career officials inside the DOJ to tamp down problematic demands for a second special counsel.

Worse still, and absolutely confirming information from our own contacts within the OIG, Paul Sperry outlines how Michael Horowitz has not interviewed key people who would be part of any authentic FISA abuse inquiry.  [READ HERE]

Unfortunately, this information is directly in-line with information received by CTH in September of 2018.  According to people with knowledge of DOJ-OIG operations, and restrictions upon the IG imposed by chain-of-command authority, Horowitz’s investigation has been limited by Mueller’s team.

According to our own independent sourcing, as a direct consequence of the Sessions recusal issues, DAG Rosenstein was in charge of approving all OIG investigative document production and DOJ/FBI scheduling for testimony.  Mueller’s team gave Rosenstein a list of restrictive lines of inquiry that would be considered obstructing their own investigation and should thereby be considered ‘out-of-bounds‘ for OIG review; those instructions broadly created limits on what Horowitz could see, and who Horowitz could interview.

According to a person directly involved, an internal investigative complaint was filed to the AG; however, due to recusal issues that complaint was forwarded (by Sessions) to FBI chief-legal-counsel Dana Boente.

General Counsel Boente, hired by Christopher Wray, ultimately concurred with Mueller and Rosenstein’s decision thereby blocking any internal investigative efforts under the auspices of protecting the integrity of the ongoing Mueller probe.

A bureaucratic catch-22.

As a result of team Mueller’s moves, multiple people including John Carlin, Mary McCord, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Carter Page and any other inside official with knowledge of the FISA application and downstream issue, is off-limits for DOJ-OIG questioning.

This decision was stunningly ironic considering that Dana Boente was the ultimate arbiter inside the internal debate.  Remember, Boente was “acting AG” after Sally Yates was fired.

See the BS construct?

Sometime just after President Trump agreed to back-down from his declassification request (9/21/18), under threat from Rosenstein over obstruction, around early October it was reported to us that INSD (FBI inspection division) was planning to wait-out the Mueller probe and continue the OIG investigation once the Mueller report was filed.

However, after the election it became obvious the small group, who make up -and control- Mueller’s team, were going to expand their inquiry; and it was unlikely the probe would end.  The result of this bureaucratic mess and tug-of-war is that Horowitz cannot see the information DAG Rosenstein promised President Trump he would review.

CTH is told this outcome is entirely by design.   DAG Rod Rosenstein knew that Horowitz was being blocked by Mueller at the same time Rosenstein promised President Trump the inspector general would review the FISA issues.   The internal complaint passed to Boente had already taken place prior to September 21st when Trump met with Rosenstein.

In essence, DAG Rosenstein was lying to Trump about allowing Horowitz to review the information behind the declassification….. well, sort of lying…

You see, here’s where Mueller and Rosenstein are Machievellian.   IG Horowitz will be allowed to see the material, but only *after* the Mueller team is finished with their probe.  So technically Rosenstein wasn’t lying to the President – he just wasn’t being entirely forthcoming with the timing.  So long as the Mueller probe exists, the IG is blocked from review.

Read again slowly:

So long as the Mueller probe exists, Inspector General Michael Horowitz is blocked from reviewing anything Team Mueller takes under their review.

The OIG has now been reviewing FBI and DOJ issues in/around FISA aspects for over a year; yet the DOJ-OIG and internal inspection division unit (INSD) has been blocked, by the Mueller probe, from reviewing the most critical information needed.

Here’s where it gets interesting…. Remember, as you saw in December from FBI Deputy Director David Bowditch, the ODNI (Coats), AG (Whitaker/Barr), DAG (Rosenstein), FBI Director (Wray) and Deputy FBI Director (Bowditch), along with Robert Mueller and/or any leadership member of his team (Weissmann), can block or deny any declassification request.  However, they need an excuse to do so; Mueller is that excuse.

None of these DOJ/FBI officials have any intention of declassifying anything while the Mueller probe exists.  Mueller’s team holds all the power; arguably, by design.

Now, just pause and take this back to the beginning again, and be intellectually honest with your review.  If the Mueller probe can block any/all investigative inquiry related to any matter they put under their massive review…. then, even if you believe Huber is doing an investigation of something (he’s not)…. what the heck could Huber investigate if access to the evidence is controlled by team Mueller?

Think about it logically.

But wait, it gets worse…

If DOJ Inspector General Horowitz were to write an incomplete report, obviously it would not be of value; but if he did, and it cited his inability to review certain information – and/or conduct certain interviews – that draft report (during the notification to principles phase) still has to pass through DOJ channels who have the ultimately authority to remove any language concerning to their interests, and transfer it into a classified appendix which no-one can legally discuss. Thus, the Inspector General is not an autonomous official; Horowitz doesn’t work without bosses.

With Paul Sperry’s reporting as additional support, CTH continues to outline the true motives and intents of Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller and his team:

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for ideologically aligned deep state officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe; and/or block IG Horowitz from seeing material related to the FISA abuse scandal and “spygate”.  In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.

The efforts of Rosenstein, Wray, Bowditch, Boente et al, to cover-up the institutional corruption extends far beyond their blocking activity of the declassification requests; and shows up in the lack of substance behind the Wolfe plea agreement when compared to the devastating evidence within the original indictment.

There is a clear pattern.  In addition to the disparity of outcome within the Wolfe indictment/plea deal we exhibit: ♦redactions in material evidence provided to congress; ♦refusal to release material to congress; ♦fighting declassification of documents that would be damaging to the previous officials; ♦refusal to discuss events with congress by officials who hide behind the shield of the Mueller investigation; the list is long.

Additionally, the Mueller control agenda also extends into the two previous IG reports submitted by DOJ Inspector Michael Horowitz.

With Robert Mueller in charge of an ongoing investigation, the two previous IG reports (1. Investigation of McCabe and 2. Clinton email/FBI bias) could not outline anything tangentially connected to the Mueller investigation without first passing through his teams approval and review.

That level of Mueller influence kept the most severe elements of investigative sunlight away from public review.

These officials defending the administrative state are still in place.  We know they are in place because their influential conduct is visible. Three of them are inarguable:

(1) By redacting innocuous, albeit highly damaging information, within the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages and emails.  Officials within the agencies are hiding information and even eliminating the most damaging material.  Why did they redact the Page/Strzok text messages in the first place?

(2) By controlling what records IG Horowitz has access to; in addition to who he is interviewing. The IG is only as effective as the material he has to review.  Mueller, through people like Andrew Weissman is the one making all the decision here.

(3) By shaping the executive summaries of the two previous IG reports to ensure the specific material within the report is diluted as much as possible in the summary and conclusions.

In essence, and against the understanding of how these officials manipulated the recusal of AG Jeff Sessions; DAG Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Deputy FBI Director David Bowditch, FBI Chief Legal Counsel Dana Boente, Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the affiliated network of political operatives within the DOJ/FBI; this crew has held free reign to shape everything in the past two years.

That is why there has been ZERO progress.

Everything past to present, has been a complete con-job by the officials within the DOJ and FBI.

This is what Jordan, Meadows and Collins now hope to expose.

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Sunday Talks: Senator Marcus Junius Brutus Discusses Opposition Intransigence for Border Security….


Appearing on Face the Nation, Republican Senator Lindsey ‘Marcus Junius Brutus‘ Graham (U-DC) discusses his bold support for President Trump and the need for a physical border barrier.

Senator Brutus, a beneficiary of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee [think lobbying – example here], connects his support for President Trump’s border position with his concerns about a withdrawal of a U.S. military presence in Syria. Quote: …”the president is slowing down and he is reevaluating his policies”

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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” ~ Cicero

Senator Durbin:

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Sunday Talks: Steny Hoyer Outlines Legislative Resistance Approach Using UniParty Ally Mitch McConnell…


House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer appears on Meet The Press to outline how the House will use political theater, with their ally Mitch McConnell, to weaken the border security position of President Donald Trump.

When you accept that Senate Leader McConnell is actually on their team, things begin to make more sense. Democrats are providing cover for their UniParty ally, Mitch, by framing the optic of McConnell allied with President Trump.  The entire process is a predictable and well planned insider game of optics and political theater.

Cheney – Rice – Rumsfeld – Kristol


There have been assertions that the formidable group of Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice were responsible for all the deaths in the Iraq Conflict. A number of people have responded to the piece I wrote about the movie VICE.  This threesome called themselves “the Vulcans”, after the Roman god of fire. Cheney served as the White House Chief of Staff, from 1975 to 1977. In 1978, Cheney was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives representing Wyoming and reelected five times serving until 1989, when he was the House minority whip in 1989. Cheney was selected to be the Secretary of Defense during the Presidency of George H. W. Bush, Sr, holding the position for the majority of Bush’s term from 1989 to 1993. Remember these years!

What I know from sources was that there was an intelligence report dated September 21st, 2001, that stated bluntly that there was NO evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks. Later, in the 2004 9/11 Commission report, they too concluded that there was NO “collaborative relationship” between Iraq and al-Qaeda. Cheney effectively authorized the Iraq Invasion which began on the 20th of March in 2003. Cheney allegedly used the national security excuse to keep Bush sequestered after 9/11 so Cheney could run the government unobstructed.

In 1976, Bill Kristol worked for Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s United States Senate campaign. Later, in 1988, Kristol was the campaign manager for black Republican Alan Keyes’s unsuccessful Maryland Senatorial campaign against Paul Sarbanes. So Kristol was on both sides of the aisle. He then taught political philosophy and University of Pennsylvania and Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. It was 1985 when Kristol first went to work in the White House serving as Chief of Staff to Secretary of Education William Bennett during the Reagan administration. Then Kristol became the Chief of Staff to Vice President Dan Quayle (1989-1993) in the George H. W. Bush administration.  This is when Kristol and Cheney were working together.

Kristol wrote the War Over IraqSaddam’s Tyranny And America’s Mission with his co-author Lawrence F. Kaplan, which was published on February 1st, 2003, one month and change BEFOREthe invasion. Note the timing. This was written to support Cheney. It takes time to publish this book.

Kristol’s book states that the rationale behind the preemptive strategy against Saddam Hussein is simply that he is a dictator who threatens both his own people and the world. That is sufficient to justify the United States invading another country before he does further harm. Kristol offered no evidence to support his case and he simply stated that “we do know that Saddam is a terrorist.”Kristol went as far as to criticize both the first Bush administration and the Clinton administration for allowing the Iraq threat to grow.

Now, based upon INSIDE White House sources, when someone first joined the staff in the White House under the new Bush Jr. Administration in 2001, at the very first meeting the focus was not on the prospects of a recession into 2002, but on invading Iraq from day one!!!!!!

The real issue behind the curtain was that Kristol and Kaplan were articulating a false narrative to justify a political experiment no different than the EU experiment. The real goal was to install democracy in the various countries of the Middle East to eliminate war with Israel. That is an absurd idea that ignores culture entirely. The EU experiment was the same theory which all emerged during the early 1983-1985 period. Federalize Europe and that will eliminate war, which also ignored cultural differences. You can listen to this very same justification stated by former President of France making it clear that the Euro project is to eliminate war.

This audacity of manipulating nations under the pretense to prevent future wars is really deranged. Just for the record, yes I know Bill Kristol and he even spoke at one of our WEC events in 1996. I disagree with the neocons and I disagree with intervening into nations to create democracies. Some cultures have never had a democracy and neither do we. We are a Republic using the pretense of Democracy for if we were a true Democracy there would never have been a war to invade Iraq.