It All Depends on the Military


Posted originally on Dec 22, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

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QUESTION: Do you think we will enter a civil war?

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ANSWER: I do not think that we will be in civil war, but we do have to understand if any state tries to succeed, it could turn to violence based on precedent. Everything will depend on the military. If they turn on the people, then yes. If they support the people, it can be a bloodless event like Yeltsin standing on the tank in 1991.

The computer shows that the nation is deeply divided, and we will see civil unrest post-2024 because this is spinning out of control. The Democrats are not unified, and neither are the Republicans, for that matter. We need reform, and that is what Washington is fighting against. The party is over. They have to realize it is time to clean the garbage in DC. This whole nonsense with Trump is trying to block him to maintain the status quo. It only divides the country.

Our future will be determined by the military, as in just about every situation throughout history.

A Political Disaster – 2024 will be Worse


Posted originally on Dec 21, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

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COMMENT #1: This is in regards to your blog labeled “Homelessness at All-Time High in World’s Wealthiest Nation.” My wife tried to get her Aunt, who has nothing but the clothes on her back, government assistant housing in South Carolina. They told us they haven’t been accepting applications for over a year. You can see for yourself on their SC assistance website.
So I’m not sure what HUD means when they praise the Biden/Harris administration….

Kevin

COMMENT #2: I never voted for Trump and thought he was arrogant. But after watching how hard these people are trying to stop him, it is obvious that they are scared to death of what happens if he wins. I have two sons, 18 and 20. I do not want to see them drafted to help Ukraine. This time, I am voting for Trump to save my children.

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REPLY: The mainstream press has abandoned the people. All we get is nonsense and propaganda that comes from Washington; they click their heels and say Sieg Heil! So many emails are coming in that say they never voted for or liked Trump, but now they will vote for him to shake up Washington. These people in DC have to stop destroying this country. Trump is rising in the polls, NOT because he is some saint. It is all becoming so obvious that it is a vote against Washington.

It seems like a lot of people are coming to the conclusion that a vote for Trump is a vote against Washington and, certainly, the Neocons. A Trump victory would transform Washington into a sitcom.

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Nevertheless, I think they would assassinate Trump before his hand hits the book. They cannot allow him to take office because they won’t get World War III. My concern is they intend to start war ASAP to box in Trump where he cannot exit a war they have already begun. Pay attention. NATO will be deploying more Troops on the border of Russia in Estonia and Lithuania, where they can launch an attack against Russia, whereas Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

The crisis would be the exposure of the FBI, NSA, and CIA and whether they would follow Trump’s orders. I seriously doubt that would happen. This is the Deep State fighting for its life. Maybe this is the time. We will have to see. The USA will not stand anyhow, and we are looking at the collapse of the country we grew up in because of the deep-seated corruption at every level. What the Biden Administration has pulled off in Colorado is just shocking – an absolute direct attack on the foundation of Democracy. Bideneconomics has been a disaster, and it will get a lot worse in 2024.

What Kind of American Are You?


Posted originally on Dec 19, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

COMMENT #1: Are we being forewarned?
This is a trailer of a new movie to be released April 26, 2024. Can you believe this? [some trailer]
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COMMENT #2: Marty, this movie was inspired by your work. Nobody else forecast a civil war back in 2020.

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REPLY: All I can say is I hope this puts the thought in people’s minds. When the guy says ya, but what kind of American? That said it all. The trailer looks very good.

Over Half of Democrats Want a New POTUS


Posted originally on Dec 20, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

Democrats Stake in the Heart

The Democrats simply have no voice within their own party, and the Republicans are no better. Joe Biden admitted that he is only seeking a second term to prevent a Trump victory. Biden does not want to be in the Oval Office and has no passion for the job, but it is expected of him. The establishment has him completely under their thumb. Biden allegedly received more votes than any president in US history, but most of the people who voted for him did so because they also hated Trump. Now, over half of Democrats want him out of office.

A recent poll conducted by Fox News revealed that 54% of Democrat primary voters would prefer an alternative to President Joe Biden as the 2024 nominee, while only 43% want to keep Biden. The poll also showed a slight increase in negative sentiment against the president compared to previous months. The Democratic Party is reported to have no “plan B” if Biden does not run for reelection because the establishment does not plan on having a fair election.

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What could Joe Biden possibly campaign on? I genuinely cannot name one accomplishment. His presidency has set historical records for border crossings, inflation, homelessness, crime, and government spending, to name a few items. The bribery attempts made during the last election will not work as Biden failed to make good on his promises. Then you have strong support for Palestine among liberals, especially the youth who predominately vote blue. Hence, Biden’s people indicted his main opponent and painted his supporters as domestic terrorists. They weaponized the FBI and CIA and manipulated the media with endless propaganda. The establishment now refuses to allow any Democrat to run against him. Do you still believe we live in a democracy?  

Tennessee Jet “2 + 2” Live at red Rocks


Country singer from Oklahoma writes honest lyrics about life in the USA today. He’s grounded in reality and waxes philosophical in an interview I heard this week. One expletive at the end. When he refrains “How dare you..” it reminds of climatist, Greta Thunberg. But he has reason to challenge us.

In this version the originally? you can hear the words better

The Great Taking – or the Great Misconception


Posted originally on Dec 18, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

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QUESTION: I have watched this video of David Webb, who distorts the history of the Great Depression, making it sound like the Fed was created to take all the gold when it was formed in 1913. Roosevelt’s “taking” was in 1933, 20 years later. As you and Milton Friedman pointed out, there was a shortage of money during the Great Depression. You provided even the catalog of over 200 cities that issued their own money. I have bought some myself now.

Am I wrong, but this guy has glued facts together, making it sound like they will take all securities like they did gold, and you will have nothing? I am unsure he understands the difference between a secured and an unsecured creditor you learn in basic finance. Then he claimed to be a hedge fund manager, but if this is the same David Webb, he sought to raise money to be just an equity fund manager and registered with the SEC. That is not a hedge fund manager who deals internationally.

Your comments would be enlightening.

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REPLY: The Fed was created in 1913 and had nothing to do with confiscating gold. Roosevelt’s Brain Trust was against gold confiscation. Roosevelt did that NOT to confiscate assets, only gold not the dollar in your account.  That had NOTHING to do with the shortage of money but funding his Marxist agenda. Europe defaulted in 1931, and the Fed kept money tight to maintain confidence that the US would not default like Europe. People hoard their wealth in times of uncertainty. That is why even Roman Coin hoards correlate to the civil wars and fate of the 3rd century. The hoarding of wealth during the Great Depression contracted the velocity of money during that time, resulting in cash shortages.

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George Warren (1874-1938) recommended the dollar’s devaluation because it had risen so high that politicians imposed protectionism. After all, they, too, did not understand the currency. Warren was called the farmer economist, but it took someone who understood international markets to see the problem was the high dollar value. Roosevelt put a spin on that, confiscated the gold at $20.67, and then devalued the dollar to $35—the profit he used to fund his socialist agenda.

Yes, I agree; there seems to be a misunderstanding of title and law. There was a Supreme Court case that goes to this very question of secured title to assets and unsecured. Grupo Mexicano de Desarrollo, S. A. v. Alliance Bond Fund, Inc., 527 U.S. 308 (1999). The court overruled a district court that seized UNSECURED assets, and the Supreme Court ruled there was no such power to do so before a judgment. That power resides only with SECURED assets such as a mortgage where the title has NOT passed to the homeowner until he has paid off the mortgage.

The problem with a brokerage house is that if you have contracts or shares, and certainly if you are trading on margin, the title is NOT yours. Just like a mortgage, you have to own it 100% outright. In the case of MF Global, Bankruptcy Judge Martin Glenn seized all the client’s funds and attributed the losses to them as a whole, for they were UNSECURED creditors.

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Martin Glenn was the judge in New York on M.F. Global bankruptcy. He was the first to engage in FORCED LOANS by abandoning the rule of law to help the bankers by protecting them from losses and taking client accounts to cover M.F. Global’s losses. That is no different from what we saw in Cyprus. He allowed the confiscation of client funds, which were UNSECURED when the rule of law was that the bankers were responsible and M.F. Global’s losses should have been reversed. The client’s funds should never be taken for M.F. Global’s losses to the NY Bankers. Judge Martin Glen placed the entire financial system at risk by trying to protect the bankers. He pampered these bankers, making them the new UNTOUCHABLES. We must be concerned that no rule of law will protect you in a crisis.

When you deposit money in a bank, you are a UNSECURED creditor. When a bank fails, you get in line with all the other depositors. The same thing would take place when a government defaults. You are still an UNSECURED creditor. Unless the government intervenes, current shareholders in any major company will be wiped out in a bankruptcy court, and the stock becomes worthless because shareholders have no claims on the company’s assets in bankruptcy court. Take the GM filing for Chapter 11 reorganization in the Manhattan, New York federal bankruptcy court on June 1, 2009. GM bondholders will fare slightly better than shareholders. GM owed a total of $33 billion to bondholders; $6 billion was SECURED, and $27 billion was UNSECURED. Secured bondholders were willing to accept lower interest payments than unsecured bondholders to be at the top of the list of creditors to be paid back if the firm entered bankruptcy. The shareholder lost most of their value, and the company had to issue more shares to raise money. The SECURED creditor comes first, just like the bank owns your property until the mortgage is paid.

To suggest that the government is going to take everything you own is just not true. That would be REVOLUTION time, and the government would collapse instantly, for not even the army would support them. You MUST understand the difference between an UNSECURED and a SECURED creditor. Equating this to the taking of gold is not the same situation. Your money in the bank at the time was expressed in dollars – not ounces of gold. The Supreme Court held that changing the backing of the dollars did not change the dollar you had or owed.

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The governments will NOT seize the ownership of everything. They rely on the military for power. Just as in Russia, when Yeltsin stood on the tank and pleaded with the military not to kill their fellow Russians, once they stood down, the coup collapsed. In China, the military obeyed, but to a limited degree, forcing the government to change direction in 1989. The government could NEVER seize everything without the military backing them up.

2024 Election Interference – The Beginning of the End


Posted originally on Dec 17, 2023 By Martin Armstrong

Congress and the UNIPARTY have authorized the  United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to continue until April, even when there have been nearly 100,000 violations of constitutional law, because it will be used against Trump. This demonstrates that even the Republicans do not want Trump in Washington. The city is so corrupt that no representation of the people or national security exists. The American Revolution was about no taxation without representation. We have come full circle.

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I have warned you that our computer has projected a significant rise in civil unrest after the 2024 election. I think it is slapping you in the face by now. Thirty years ago, they tried to hide the corruption. Today, they rig the elections, so they honestly do not care what you think anymore. This is all part of the decline and fall of America. I am glad I am too old to be here for that chaos.  NEITHER side will accept the outcome of the 2024 election.

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Where to Hide – & What to Consider


Posted originally on Dec 17, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

2032 Question

QUESTION: Dear Martin and the team.
Perhaps the chances are very low that this would somehow reach Martin. However, I would like to try to use “the power of the internet.” I have to try, so at least I am not blaming myself. I would like to ask a question and if somehow, possibly get the answer and Martin’s thoughts. (btw I bought your books, but sadly I can’t come to those conferences as they are quite far away, not to mention visas…!)

I am originally from Russia but came to the UK 9 years ago. I never thought that we would go threw such insanity during my life. My parents who passed in the 90s (the time when SU collapsed) believe that there is nothing scarier than this. Yet, based on their description, it looks like the 90s is coming worldwide, which scares me to the bones. I just can’t recognize the UK and the rest of the western countries anymore. After COVID (and also Brexit) everything twisted upside down. Cost of living, quality of life, education level, total surveillance, CBDC, digital ID and other things seem to be coming all worldwide.

Even in Russia, this ESG agenda (Sberbank was working with WEF on their cyberattack convention in 2019 for Christ’s sake!), social credit score, CBDC progressing! They are all in cahoots together… Many people don’t see a danger of those elements, and when you even try to explain the danger of those things, all what they call you are just another conspiracy theorist….
I understand that the storm is coming and most likely we will all come out as different people in 2032. I really hope that your prognosis is correct and there is a light in the end of the tunnel which brings at least some hope that we will not be stuck in this doom loop.

I am right now stuck in a dilemma which doesn’t give me peace, so I would like to try to use such an opportunity and ask questions about how Martin thinks:

1) The worst fear for me right now is being stuck in the UK. If we all go into such shit period, I would prefer to be in my home country (Russia). However, I have been in the UK for almost 10 years and was thinking about applying for a passport in 2025. After that, I was considering leaving the country for good. Question comes : is it worth it? If this all goes so downhill. How much time do I have till the storm comes, and will I not be able to leave? Is it really worth it? I can, of course, return home, but all those years which I have been in the UK will be basically worthless… Moreover, the passport opportunity could help me… one day…. This cross-road doesn’t give me peace of mind.

2) In your prognosis of the safest places you mostly consider the USA. What places in the UK are safest? Is Edinburgh safe? I can see that England is in full turmoil. All those green zealots and green zones which would destroy the economy… Not to mention those cameras today have been deployed everywhere.

3) Don’t you think that this world power grab will be worldwide? We can see that they all argue with each other, yet when it comes to COP-28 or WEF events, they all sit together… I can see the same things happening in Russia. The main bank, Sberbank, even has a director of ESG, plus they are pushing for CBDC and Machine-learning integration in the transactions… Madness.
I still believe that I have a higher chance of surviving in Russia. I have parents who have their own garden…. And overall, it is easier to survive mentally when your parents are nearby…
I greatly appreciate that you try to predict and guide us towards those insane times. If somehow this message arrives, could you please share your thoughts?
Kind regards
Max

Question Answers

ANSWER: This turmoil that we are heading into is global. There really will be no country that will not be affected in some way. The US Congress just passed legislation anticipating a Trump victory that is intended to PREVENT any president from withdrawing from NATO unilaterally as Trump had vowed. The politicians throughout the West are pushing us into World War III, and there is nothing we can do to stop this insanity.

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The West is the aggressor. While they claim Putin’s invasion was unprovoked and this is about freedom and democracy, that is just nonsense.  The Minsk Agreement was to allow the Donbas to have a free election. Merkel and the West lied to allow Ukraine to build an army to fight Russia which has been the plan all along. Zelensky, the puppet selling out his own country, stood up and said that Ukraine would rearm itself with nuclear weapons. So, in addition to tearing up the Minsk Agreement, Zelensky also tore up the Budapest Memorandum where Ukraine had more nuclear weapons than China. It was a major world nuclear power – the third-largest nuclear power in the world.

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The Budapest Memorandum was where Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize in exchange, the U.S., the U.K., and Russia guaranteed Ukraine’s security in that 1994 agreement. Therefore, when Zelensky stood up and declared Ukraine would re-arm with nukes and was no longer going to be neutral, Putin had no choice but to come to the aid of the Donbas the next day. Zelensky never told his people and he said to the Washington Post that had he told the people Russia would invade, he would have lost $7 billion.

Hillary is saying that they are using Ukraine as cannon fodder and the plan is to weaken Russia to overthrow their government if you just listen. Afghanistan is the “model” to keep throwing Ukrainians into the war, and maybe the West will win. These people love to play God with nations, and people’s lives, on both sides. NEVER have I ever heard Hillary or any Neocon even once express remorse for the dead soldiers or their families where children grow up without a parent.

These Neocons are just hateful people, and they have seized power in Washington to wage war. They hate all Russians and Chinese because they used to be communists and they cannot let that go. They still have to defeat them no matter what.

Hillary is a Neocon who was behind the entire move to overthrow the governments of the Middle East – Iraq, Syria, and Libya. The Benghazi attack on the US embassy was because it was being used to funnel arms into Syria and Libya to create civil wars just as they have done in Ukraine.

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Far too many politicians have been brainwashed by the Neocons. They think Putin is the enemy and may think they are supporting national security, but they too are just stupid pawns. Nobody in Washington is even interested in peace. Most are not competent to even comprehend that the West needs war so desperately as the excuse to justify CBDCs, capital controls, martial law, and the sovereign debt default that wipes out pensions so they also need to reduce the population to reduce their unfunded liabilities.

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So where to hide? There will be safe places within many countries, even the UK, but they will be away from major cities. That is where the risk will lie. That was sort of the theme of the movie, strangely partly funded by Obama, Leave the World Behind, but that was really about taking down communications, including satellites. I found it curious that Obama would be behind such a film. This will certainly be one impact of war, which is why I am against digital currency, for you will be unable to buy anything. In the film, the only way a guy could buy medicine was with cash.

What you must understand is that all the old wounds will resurface. You even have Biden’s education official claiming that democracy, fatphobia, is based on white supremacy. At the same time, Obama’s new film is against white people. Look around the world. Whatever old dispute there was is resurfacing. Ukrainians hate Russian-speaking Ukrainians. The same is now unfolding in Estonia. All of this bullshit about “equality” is a smokescreen. The old hatreds are all surfacing and these will be part of the process of tearing about civilization as we head into 2032. So in your case, it may just be safer in Russia, for in World War II, they locked up Japanese who were born in the United States simply because of their race and ethnic origin. Be very careful about where you move to. Remember the Boxer Rebellion in China, where it was get all foreigners?

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By the time we get to 2032, that will be the light at the end of the tunnel. The shit-storm, as they say, will begin primarily after 2024. The US election will further divide the USA, for NEITHER side will accept the result. The USA will eventually break apart into three primary regions: the South & midwest Bible Belt will join together against the Northeast, and the Pacific States will be their own la-la-land. You will most likely be safer with the region that best matches your political philosophy. Even during the American Revolution, they were confiscating assets of people who supported the king politically. There is NEVER any rule of law during the war – NEVER forget that. You have no rights it will always be the will of those in power.

I would get the passport as a hedge, but you may be safer in Russia than in the US or Europe. You certainly want to stay away from any major city no matter what country you are in. That is where the civil unrest will flare up the most. Keep in mind, cities like NYC, will be out of food in 7 days when there are no trucks to bring it into town.

American Wealth Declined in Q3


Posted originally on Dec 11, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 

Debt Burden

According to a recent Federal Reserve report, US household wealth experienced a significant decline in the third quarter, largely attributed to deep stock losses. The central bank’s report revealed that household net worth fell by approximately $1.3 trillion, or 0.9%, from July to September, amounting to $151 trillion. The decline was primarily driven by a $1.7 trillion drop in the value of equity holdings.

This comes after a volatile year for the stock market, with all three major indexes experiencing a significant downturn in mid-2023. While the market has since recovered, the report also indicated a continued rise in household debt, which increased at a 2.5% annual rate in the third quarter. The decline in household wealth has raised concerns about its potential impact on consumer spending, borrowing, and investing, as well as its implications for the broader economy.

American Dream

Americans living off credit began pulling from their 401K accounts early during Q3. Hardship withdrawals rose 13% in the beginning of June after already being 27% higher than January. Hardship withdrawals allow employees to pull money out of their 401K for an “immediate and heavy financial need.” No one would recommend doing this unless the situation was dire as individuals must show evidence that the money will be used for a major hardship in order to avoid the 10% early withdrawal fee imposed for those under 59.5.

The year 2023 marked the first time personal credit debt surpassed $1 trillion. Credit card interest rates average 24.56%, according to LendingTree. Credit cards aside, American households are carrying $17.29 trillion in various forms of debt, with the average household hosting $103,358 in debt that continues to compound.

The Modified FISA-702 Reauthorization Bill (HR 6611) Has Passed the House – The Changes Have Expanded Federal Surveillance of Americans


Posted originally on the CTH December 9, 2023 | Sundance

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Chairman Mike Turner is celebrating the passage of HR 6611, the 2023 FISA reauthorization bill.

Chairman Turner would have granted a clean FISA renewal, he’s that kind of Republican; however, several Republicans demanded changes to the FISA-702 authorities that capture the data of American citizens without a warrant.  Thus, the HPSCI modified the authorities within HR 6611, but they made it worse.

(Via CDT) – Tucked away near the end of the bill the House Intelligence Committee reported on December 7 (H.R. 6611, the “HPSCI bill”) is a provision that would dramatically expand surveillance under the controversial Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (“FISA 702”), which sunsets on December 31 unless reauthorized. Section 504 of the bill, innocuously captioned “Definition of Electronic Communications Service Provider,” would expand the types of entities that can be compelled to disclose internet communications whether in storage or in transit.

FISA 702 permits the U.S. government to compel communication service providers to disclose for foreign intelligence purposes the communications of persons reasonably believed to be non-U.S. persons abroad. No warrant is required; a belief that the communications relate to U.S. foreign affairs or national security is sufficient.  Under current FISA 702, only entities that provide communication services like email, calls, and text messaging can be compelled to disclose these communications. 

As FISA Court amicus and longtime practitioner Marc Zwilligener and his colleague Steve Lane have already noted, the HPSCI bill would upend the current system, enabling the government to compel anyone with mere access to the equipment on which such communications are stored or transmitted to disclose those communications.  That could include personnel at coffee shops that offer WiFi to their customers, a town library that offers public computer internet services, hotels, shared workspaces, landlords and even AirBNB hosts that offer WiFi to the people who stay there, cloud storage services that host but do not access data, and large data centers that rent out computer server space to their clients.

The provision is intended to reverse a rare decision of the FISA Court of Review (FISCR), which had rejected the government’s claim that a service that a company provided fit within the scope of Section 702. In its effort to override the FISCR ruling, the HPSCI bill has opened Pandora’s Box.  

Because FISA 702 does not merely give the government power to compel production of communications but rather to require that businesses “provide the Government with all information, facilities, or assistance necessary to accomplish the acquisition,” [emphasis supplied] the government could use this new section to compel changes to the infrastructure and operations of some of the business entities listed above. For example, a provider of computer co-location services whose business model is to rent out and to service space on which its clients place their computer servers could be compelled to engineer its service to facilitate such access. In addition, because the HPSCI bill’s expansion is designed to pull in entities that do not currently even have access to communications, the extent of this forced restructure could be severe.

Such a shift not only affects American businesses, it is also likely to spur on overcollection and improperly sweep in Americans’ communications. The expansion would likely facilitate compelled  “Upstream” collection from these entities, a technique in which the government demands access to the entire stream of communications data, rather than obtaining only the communications to and from surveillance targets. It may be difficult for businesses that have access to equipment on which communications are stored and transmitted, but have never had to access the communications themselves, to ensure that only the data of Section 702 targets is turned over to the government.

Instead, they may be compelled to turn over entire communication streams or permit the copying and dragnet scanning of all the data on a server they host. Upstream collection performed by sophisticated giant telcos who operate the Internet backbone already has a fraught history of overcollection, including sweeping in wholly domestic communications (such as through multi communication transaction and “Abouts” collection). Forcing businesses that do not by practice even access communications to comply with FISA 702 orders—including Upstream orders—is reckless, and very likely to cause domestic communications to be improperly collected. (read more)

Here’s the core problem.  The DATA COLLECTION is not going away, meaning the wholesale gathering of the metadata on all electronic communication is the baseline.  As long as that baseline exists, the debate is about how the metadata can be accessed and what queries into that data can take place without a search warrant.

If FISA-702 was completely removed, the executive branch (DOJ-NSD) would be on the honor system, which essentially- they are now.

As long as the capability to retrieve and store the data exists, it will be exploited.   The data collection horse left the barn long ago.  That reality only leaves the ability to limit access as a solution to the abuses and warrantless surveillance.

Having looked extensively at this issue for years, and accepting the data collection is never going to be stopped, the only pathway to try and ensure rules and regulations are compliant with the 4th amendment, would be an oversight panel from the legislative branch put inside the process.

The only time the legislative branch has any power in the FISA process, is when they reauthorize its use.  Only at these specific moments is the legislative branch currently involved.  At all other times, it is the executive branch (DOJ, DOJ-NSD and FBI) involved, along with the FISA Court which represents the judicial branch.   The absence of the legislative branch in the process could be considered the oversight problem.

FISA, as it applies to American citizens caught up in the “incidental collection,” is clearly weaponized.  The underlying database, the storage system for all data, is the other problem.  As long as thousands of people in the executive branch have access to search this database, that access will be abused.

[CTH] – Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified, April 27, 2023, that more than 3.4 million search queries into the NSA database took place between Dec. 1st, 2020 and Nov. 30th, 2021, by government officials and/or contractors working on behalf of the federal government. These search queries were based on authorizations related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Approximately 30% of those 3.4 million search queries were outside the rules and regulations that govern warrantless searches – what the politically correct government calls “non-compliant searches.”  That means during the year 2021, more than 1 million searches of private documents and communication of Americans were illegal and outside the rules.

Additionally, IG Horowitz admitted that somewhere north of 10,000 federal employees have access to conduct these searches of the NSA database; a database which contains the electronic data of every single American, including emails, text messages, social media posts, instant messages, direct messages, phone calls, geolocation identifiers, purchases by electronic funds, banking records and any keystroke any American person puts into any electronic device for any reason. (more)

In my opinion, instead of trying to put the FISA genie back into the bottle, Congress needs to work on the accountability piece.  The punishment for abusing the database needs to be defined – perhaps 5 years imprisonment for each search violation.

The only thing I can think of that will improve the “702” issue, is a legislatively created oversight panel forced within the process (that puts the legislative branch inside the DOJ/FISC relationship) that has full access to see and monitor everything that is being done by the DOJ/FBI.

I don’t know if that would work, but it’s better than what they are doing now.

The Committee on Rules will meet on Monday, December 11, 2023 at 4:00 PM ET in H-313, The Capitol on the following measures:

H.R. 357 – Ensuring Accountability in Agency Rulemaking Act
H.R. 1147 – Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act of 2023
H.R. 6570 – Protect Liberty and End Warrantless Surveillance Act
H.R. 6611 – FISA Reform and Reauthorization Act of 2023  (link)

The current FISA-702 authority will likely be extended to April 19th.

Hopefully the Senate will block the modified House bill, HR 6611, which expands the current authority.

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