Gold & Connecting the Dots


Posted originally on Nov 6, 2024 By Martin Armstrong |

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COMMENT: Marty, Socrates is truly astonishing. You also called a high in gold and said this was indicating a Trump victory, for he is anti-war, so gold would decline, not rally. Every market has performed as you laid out, and I can now see how it all dovetails to support the political forecast. You are teaching us what nobody has ever done—connecting the dots. There is no random walk. You have proven that.

I can’t wait for this weekend. I agree. Nobody has accomplished anything close to you.

HK

REPLY: There is indeed no random walk. That is the explanation given by people who cannot see the world as a whole. Socrates has taught me a lot, as have my clients. If I did not have clients worldwide, I probably would never have seen the dots to connect. I think we are expanding the capacity for the virtual attendees. For those looking to attend, the hotel is fully sold out. You probably could squeeze in, but you must book at another hotel. Even the visitors to this site has nearly doubled today.

Do Futures Result in Manipulating Gold?


Posted Jan 26, 2024 By Martin Armstrong 
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COMMENT #1: Mr. Armstrong, I just wanted to thank you. I am a converted gold bug. Your comment about how gold was $875 in 1980 and the Dow was 1,000 compared to today cannot be ignored. I can see now that it is more of a religion than reality, like climate change absent the science. I was at Starbucks, and Generation X before me just paid with his phone. They have no idea what money is and have no idea of precious metals.

I just want to say thank you. I now understand they are a hedge when confidence collapses and we are moving closer to that period day by day.

Thank you for the education

Kerry

QUESTION #1: Hello; If a house cost $4,000 in 1930, then it cost 200 x 1930 $20 gold pieces to buy the house.
A $20 dollar gold piece @ 33.4 grams of gold today would be $471,000. So not much change except the standard house in 1930 could have used some updates. Wonder if property corellates to gold?
Just for fun; Rob

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ANSWER #1:  You have to be careful, for this is usually a selective analysis put out as a sales pitch. A loaf of Wonder Bread was 10 cents in 1930, and it’s about $5 today. That is the standard long-term inflation. This key is that everything rises and falls.

Yes, it’s good to be diversified. Just be careful with the gold bugs. They often tell you to sell everything, for only gold will rise. That is just not true, and I have seen so many people lose a fortune on that advice.

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QUESTION #2:  Mr. Armstrong,
could you explain how futures markets affect the spot price/the market price?
We hear of futures markets manipulating, affecting the market price, but how is i ask?
I heard that because of the futures markets we then get a different perception of the market price. Meaning that if the futures are trading lower, than the market price will get lower or if the futures are trading higher than the market price will trade higher. Is this true??
Regards,
Pietro

ANSWER #2: It is a fool’s argument to try to explain why gold peaked at $875 in 1980, with the Dow Jones Industrials at 1,000. Today, gold is $2,000, and the Dow is 33,000.  So, to explain why gold has not risen, it must be manipulated.

Futures provide liquidity to any commodity or market. Liquidity expands the market, and thus, more people get involved. If you closed the futures market, then the only way to trade gold would be in physical bullion. The number of investors would collapse. Moreover, producers need the futures market to sell forward to lock in a profit to produce. If a farmer plants a crop expecting to get the market price when planting and something happens when it goes to harvest, he can lose his shirt and be out of business. Future contracts are selling your crop when you plant it, and you are effectively selling the risk to someone else. Here is a futures contract from Babylon during the 19th century BC. This is the way markets have been able to function for thousands of years.

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My mother always told me there is a time and place for everything. Eliminating the futures market would rapidly make gold untradable. Miners will not function if they always have to roll the dice, hoping gold will rise and not decline when they finish refining a lot. This is the same for farmers and even in funds management.

I was offered $60 billion to manage as a stock fund in the USA. Because there is a conflict between the SEC and the CFTC, the rule was I could not HEDGE more than 17% at the time, or that would change the definition to a futures fund from an equity fund. I declined because if I saw a crash coming, I would have to sell the stocks, for I would not be allowed to sell futures to cover the risk. That is why I, along with others, started the hedge fund industry back in the 1980s: when S&P500 futures began to trade, these two agencies were fighting over jurisdiction. It was IMPOSSIBLE to comply with the law under the SEC, for you would go to jail with the CFTC. Hence, it was the OVERREGULATION that created the hedge fund industry by force.

Futures are vital because they provide the liquidity to expand markets. Because gold is an international commodity, it CANNOT be manipulated to turn a bull market into a bear market. Even the manipulation claims against the bankers are standard in trading markets. They would know where all the stops are, and they would gun for them. There is always room for swings within any market, but you cannot take a bull market and make a bear market at will.

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And just for the record, I have bought gold over the years. I bought a hoard of $20 gold pieces from a central bank. I have bought gold bars from the SS Central America that went down and caused the Panic of 1857. Gold and silver have their place in a diversified portfolio. NO PORTFOLIO should ever be 100% on one thing!

Interview: Gold and the Dollar will Rise Together Re-Posted Nov 5, 2023 By Martin Armstrong 


Watch the video above or click here to watch my latest interview with Goldseek Radio.

Head of Armstrong Economics, Martin Armstrong, outlines his gold market projections in lieu of unraveling geopolitical conditions.

Armstrong says, “You have a lot of uncertainty and confusing trends developing. When this materializes in people understanding what’s happening…the dollar and gold would go up together. Because you are looking at a flight of capital. Some people want to buy gold, some people want to get out of Europe, etc. Not everybody does the same thing. The two trends will come together. That’s what our computer is projecting, and it’s happened many times in history.”

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The Problem with Goldbugs


Armstrong Economics Blog/Books Re-Posted Sep 16, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

COMMENT: Mr. Armstrong, I just wanted to say thank you so much. I was listening to the perpetual gold analysts for years who never changed their tune. It was always buy, buy, buy, and the dollar would go to zero any day now. They always looked at the Fed and the balance sheet, and when they were wrong, they blamed the bankers for manipulating gold.

I sold out in 2013, and you said gold would decline for two years. It did not crack $1,000 as you hoped, but it elected two monthly bullish reversals within two months of that low, and you said it would rally to test $2,000. You also projected that the stock market would outperform gold, and contrary to all the gold bugs, you said they would rise together. Nobody made that forecast.

I had two friends who did not listen to you. They took home equity loans to buy more gold and did not sell in 2013. The gold bugs ruined the marriages of my former friends, and both lost their houses. We no longer talk because they lost everything when I followed you. The stock market did much better. People need to understand that when you forecast the world, you see things are all connected.

Thank you so much for the education.

ED

REPLY:  I am glad you understand that you cannot forecast a single market to the exclusion of everything else. The world economy is all connected. As I have said, without World War I & II, the USA would still be an agrarian society. The capital shifted, transforming the USA into the world’s financial capital. The problems with the goldbugs’ view of the world is that:

  1. They have broken rule #1 of investing – NEVER MARRY THE TRADE.
  2. They are prejudiced by old economic theories that have not been updated since the 16th century.

When Sir Thomas Gresham  (c. 1519 – 1579) devised his Law that bad money drives out good, the metal content determined foreign exchange on the Amsterdam Exchange. Today, the backing of a currency has returned to the days of the Roman Empire. Rome was militarily superior, as is the case of the United States, when it became the #1 military power after WWII. Yet more importantly, Rome had a consumer-based economy, so everyone was proud to be Roman, for it gave them access to the largest consumer market in history. The Emperor Marcus Aurelius (161-180 AD) had even sent an ambassador to meet with the emperor of China. The United States currency is NOT backed by gold or any commodity. It is supported by a consumer-based economy, the same as Rome.

India traded with Rome. That is where the silk from China moved through India to Rome. However, India was also the supplier of dyes and spices. Rome’s coinage was worth more than the metal content of the time of Gresham during the 16th century, for there was no significant military power nor a consumer-based economy. For over 200 years, Southen India imitated Roman gold and silver coins; at times, they even weighed more in gold than genuine coins.

Here we have an imitation gold aureus of Septimus Severus (193-211AD), which weighs 11.3 grams compared to 7.1 grams for a genuine Roman aureus. That meant that the Indian imitation was nearly 60% heavier. The coinage had a premium because of the consumer-based economy in Rome, and that attributed a premium to the coinage that had NOTHING to do with the metal content. Southern India NEVER issued their own gold coinage. They imitated that of Rome. Today, many emerging markets use the US dollar and borrow in dollars.

The world has changed – I hate to tell them. The old theory of the Quantity of Money does not hold up under any correlation. The nonsense that gold rises with inflation has ruined many and bankrupted others. The central banks have used this theory supported by Keynesian Economics, and it has utterly failed. We have ballooning national debts thanks to Austrian Economics, which propagated the idea that borrowing rather than printing would be less inflationary because you were not creating more money – you were supposed to be draining the money supply.  Everything is connected. If a foreign investor buys property in the United States, his money, be it in euro, yen, or yuan, is converted to dollars, and the domestic “real” money supply increases, for the seller, now has that cash to spend. This is not accounted for in any of these antiquated theories.

It is time we reassess how the modern economy of the 21st century truly works. Currency pegs, gold standards, and schemes like the G5 Plaza Accord, which tried to lower the value of the dollar to reduce the trade deficit being oblivious to the fact that they also lowered the value of foreign investment in the dollar, have done nothing but create confusion and economic chaos. Central banks have nothing other than the old-fashioned 16th-century theory of the quantity of money to play with.

Keynes added to the chaos by advocating, like Marx, that the government had the power to control the economy. Keynes advocated the end of Laissez-Faire in 1926. Yet, before he died, Keynes admitted that he was wrong. Nobody paid attention because once the government seized that power, they refused to hand it back to the people.

Gold is NOT a hedge against inflation. It declined for 19 years after 1980 when inflation rose, as did the national debt. Gold is a hedge against the government. That will be why it will make new highs on the 4th run – not because of the Fed or the CPI.

I am finishing up a new book on this crisis in theory. Not only have the godbugs been wrong, but so have the central bankers and those in government. It is time we take a closer look at how things truly function that apparently, like Thomas Gresham, it takes someone to observe reality from a trader’s perspective.