THE Conversation


Posted originally on the CTH on January 13, 2025 | Sundance

As the Senate begins the confirmation process….. A POINT:

“If I understand this correctly, the Senate Intel Committee will only approve Trump’s nominee for ODNI if she agrees to support an un-Constitutional provision that permits the government that none of us trust to illegally surveille American citizens without a warrant…but a provision that also makes an exception for members of Congress or their staff, who presumably value their privacy and don’t want to be illegally surveilled.

Meanwhile, President Biden is preparing to issue a blanket pardon of all the bad actors who illegally surveilled, wiretapped, sued, imprisoned and tried to assassinate his political enemies, so that no one can legally surveille, wiretap, sue or imprison them…and they get off scott-free.

Do I have that right?”  ~LionTigerBear

Yes, you have that encapsulation correct.  Additionally, the discussion of Joe Biden pardons -both metered and predicted- outlines the ideological mindset behind those who believe they rule over us.

If you pull back from the granular debate and think about it, none of the FISA justifications align with reality.

The FISA system is a designated secret court system that is said to only pertain to “foreign nationals.”

Ok, so if we accept the premise. Foreign nationals do not have U.S. constitutional protection. So why does the surveillance and intercept of them require secret U.S. courts?

In reality, the Secret Courts are needed because it’s not foreign nationals that need to be navigated in the surveillance system; it’s the American citizenry engagement within that surveillance that requires a different legal approach.

Why should an American citizen suddenly have their constitutional protections switched from U.S. Federal Court to U.S. Federal FISA courts (secret), simply because their contact -perhaps inadvertent- skims up against a foreign national?

The constitutional protection (4th amendment) should not be arbitrary, depending on your contact. A regular federal court judge can decide on the issue of a Title-1 warrant, that can be filed under seal if the exploration of the contact is a genuine concern.

There is no need for a secret court for either foreign nationals or U.S citizens. The former do not have constitutional protection, and the latter should not lose it under arbitrary determinations of U.S govt officials.

That’s the entire predicate that underpins the 4th amendment.

All of that said…. I’ll tell you why this issue is so important, and it has to do with the future, not the past.

The justification for the FISA-702 warrantless searching of American metadata, is a cornerstone for the enlargement of a surveillance state. The flawed precept behind 702 specifically, is the gateway needed to expand the system.

Real ID, Digital ID, AI used in facial recognition systems, and the larger issue of track and trace capability of U.S. citizen data (connecting your physical identity to a digital fingerprint), requires some legal justification to create a surveillance network DESPITE the 4th amendment.

FISA-702 is the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent of privacy.

IF we were to abolish FISA-702, which we should, then what legal justification would exist to continue unsecuring the American people from “their private papers and effects.”

The build out of the surveillance state becomes more legally tenuous, perhaps impossible, if privacy protections of the 4th amendment are firm.

Finding a way to surveil Americans, while working around the constitutional protection in place to stop it, is why the FISA-702 issue has become more important for those who are building the surveillance system under the guise of national security.

Challenge the legal justification for FISA-702, and you throw a massive wrench in the machinery of a growing surveillance state.

If you are secure in your papers and effects, you cannot be forced to “show your papers.”

Right now, the monitoring system designed is being done so they can get the answers to your identity, without having to ask you to show your papers, which is unconstitutional.

You drive through the metaphorical checkpoint, because the system automatically recognizes your identity. This is said to be a legal workaround.

However, what happens at the checkpoint (bank, atm machine, employment verification, port of entry or even voting booth) when government identifies you (for whatever arbitrary reason they construct) as a “politically exposed person.”

Don’t think congress is stupid about this, they know exactly what is going on. They understand just how dangerous this is; that’s why in the last FISA-702 reauthorization, congress literally wrote into the renewal that federal representatives cannot be subject to the FISA-702 rules.

All members of congress must be notified in advance, if their private metadata is going to be reviewed by the FBI, DOJ or any entity with access to the NSA full spectrum database library. They exempted themselves and secured their 4th amendment protections exclusively for themselves.

That’s the “change” in the law they all agreed to during the debate of the renewal. However, We The People are not granted this same notification or protection from weaponized access.

Expanding the point. In essence Congress made themselves “grey walkers.” Individuals that can go through the checkpoints with a database return result that permits them unimpeded travel. A special designation.

Now, do you see how a surveillance state creates a tiered hierarchy of disparate power and constitutional protection.

If AI converges with this total identity state, which it will, then the automation will have designations for people of special privilege.

It’s brutally easy to see how this system would be weaponized. My goal is to awaken people to it.

This is my hill!

Peter Thiel is the man building the tool (AI surveillance weapon) for the IC to deploy against American Citizens. Thiel writes an op-ed saying the privacy protections of Americans are important because the govt to whom he is giving the weapon is demonstrably weaponized and corrupt.

Reconcile this!

[SEE HERE]

[…] “Darker questions still emerge in these dusky final weeks of our interregnum. Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen recently suggested on Joe Rogan’s podcast that the Biden administration debanked crypto entrepreneurs. How closely does our financial system resemble a social credit system? Were an IRS contractor’s illegal leaks of Trump’s tax records anomalous, or should Americans assume their right to financial privacy hinges on their politics? And can one speak of a right to privacy at all when Congress conserves Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, under which the FBI conducts tens of thousands of warrantless searches of Americans’ communications?”

Glenn Greenwald Frames Context for the Network of Intelligence That Influenced Tulsi Gabbard’s Nomination


Posted originally on the CTH on January 12, 2025 | Sundance

In this segment of Glenn Greenwald’s monologue, he outlines the background of the IC opposition to Tulsi Gabbard and how that pressure forced Gabbard to change her position on FISA-702 authorization. {Background}

Tulsi has been a prior critic of the warrantless surveillance of Americans through the FISA-702 process.  However, in order to get confirmed to President Trump’s cabinet as the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard has been forced to reverse her opposition to FISA-702.  This is how the DC Deep State operates.

Without getting a single Democrat vote, Gabbard would rely upon the Republican senators supporting her.  The republican senators will not support her unless she agrees to continue the surveillance state as it is currently utilized.  Gabbard is an example of what We The People are up against in this confrontation with DC politicians who support a weaponized surveillance state.  WATCH:

To be fair, an argument can be made that Mrs. Gabbard is saying that she is going to keep FISA but have a stricter threshold for its use, and that would still be a change for the better in protecting citizens from its widespread use to surveil us at whim. Keeping FISA doesn’t necessarily mean she can’t affect a lack of it’s use domestically.  However, that is somewhat hopeium and wish-casting.

Given the extreme nature of how the 702 processes have been used, and combined with the new AI tools being constructed to exploit the metadata capture of all American citizens to expedite the surveillance results, it is critical to find actionable control mechanisms before the next reauthorization comes up again.

One approach might be to trigger immediate consequences for the unlawful use of the NSA database.  The revocation of security clearances in combination with criminal accountability for misuse could easily be written into law.  However, once again that relies on the willingness of the supporting lawmakers to agree to some accountability measure.  As of right now, there is no such consequence.

Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified April 27, 2023, that more than 3.4 million search queries into the NSA database took place between Dec. 1st, 2020, and Nov. 30th, 2021, by government officials and/or contractors working on behalf of the federal government. These search queries were based on authorizations related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

[OIG Testimony HERE]

Approximately 30% of those 3.4 million search queries were outside the rules and regulations that govern warrantless searches, what the politically correct government calls “non-compliant searches.”  That means more than 1 million searches of private documents and communication of Americans were illegal and outside the rules.

Additionally, IG Horowitz also admitted that somewhere north of 10,000 federal employees have access to conduct these searches of the NSA database; a database which contains the electronic data of every single American, including emails, text messages, social media posts, instant messages, direct messages, phone calls, geolocation identifiers, purchases by electronic funds, banking records and any keystroke any American person puts into any electronic device for any reason.

If we were in a functioning system of government everything would be stopped right now, and no conversation would be taking place that was not about this issue. This is the total and complete surveillance state being talked about as if we were discussing what’s for dinner.

If you ask me why in hindsight, I now take the position that FISA-702 is the gateway to the massive surveillance system currently being put into place using Real ID and the AI facial recognition software provided by Palantir (CIA exploit).  In essence, the gateway that allows the full-scale surveillance state, is opened by the prior authorization of FISA-702 that negates any 4th amendment protection.

This is beyond jaw-dropping.

Context: In 2018 CTH revealed through research of their own documents that FBI and DOJ/FBI contractors had done more than 1,000 illegal searches using the NSA database, targeting Republican primary candidates from November 2015 through May 2016. These stunning admissions were from the DOJ’s own reporting to the FISA court.

Few were paying attention.

Although the number of the illegal search queries were redacted, we know the number is four digits from the size of the redacted text. More than 1,000 and less than 9,999.

FAST FORWARD TO 2023 – April 27, 2023, IG Horowitz outlined that more than 1.1 million illegal searches of this database were conducted in 2021 during the first year of the Joe Biden administration.

Additionally, and perhaps more consequentially, to give scope to how the process of total domestic surveillance has expanded, Horowitz now admits in 2021 the number of federal government employees with access to this total metadata collection system now exceeds 10,000 people. STOP THE PRESSES!

Yes, congress is talking about this ‘as if’ there is some level of importance.  However, the basic questions are not being asked or have perhaps just become so accepted that legislators have become oblivious to the insanity of it.   Beyond the blood boiling questions about searching the NSA database, questions like:

In order for these search queries to take place, there has to be a housing facility to capture it.

Where is all of this electronic data being stored?

Why is all of this electronic data being stored?

Who is in control of this all-encompassing electronic data collection?

Forget the searches for a moment, what act of congress authorized the capture of this private data collection?  Essentially electronic intercepts of communication systems that flow throughout our life.

The background context here is congress debating the renewal of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and the power of the DOJ and FBI to intercept American citizen communication and electronic data via the “702” authorizations, that permit the NSA database to be searched and queried.

If the inspector general is now admitting the FISA laws have been so comprehensively corrupted such that 3.4 million searches by more than 10,000 federal employees and government contractors now have access, there is no way that any reasonably intelligent person should support such reauthorization.  Even contemplating this request is absurd, beyond absurd.

The United States government is admitting to the public that a total and comprehensive surveillance state is currently in place, and 10,000 federal government agents have the authorization to monitor everything we do.  This is the admitted and current status of RIGHT NOW. 

In eight days, President Donald J Trump is scheduled to be sworn in as President of the United States. In my non-pretending world, this is likely to be the last time in our lifetime to drag the conversation of how we define liberty into the American psyche. All of my research in the past two decades indicates this likelihood is not hyperbole. We have one shot at this, and our time is now.

Liberty, the fundamental decision to retain it or lose it, is the context for all other contexts that have preceded it. The principles of liberty that we have defined for generations cannot exist in an American surveillance state. Thus, the secretive courts, the unlawful usurpation of the 4th Amendment, the short-sighted ramifications of the Patriot Act, the weaponization of our federal law enforcement and police agencies, all of it, must be reviewed through this fundamental core issue, Liberty.

Dr. David Clements Visits and Interviews Tina Peters at Prison


Published originally on Rumble By The Gateway Pundit on Jan 11, 2024 at 7:30 pm EST

The Truth About the Swamp


Posted originally on Jan 12, 2025 by Martin Armstrong 

Swamp

COMMENT: Mr. Armstrong, I have written to RFK, Vance, Trump, and several Congress asking them to please pay attention to Socrates. Not a single one has ever gotten back to me. I have no faith that Trump will do what he says and all this tale of Greenland and Canada instead of the real issue of the swamp. Do you have any faith that his administration will do as he said?

P

ANSWER: No. You will NEVER get through to any of them because they are all doing the same as everyone else in the swamp – the staff runs interference. There are some people who have been trying to contact Trump. They have asked me if I would agree to meet if they can get a meeting. I politely responded sure, but I doubt any of them would agree to meet because their staff will not allow such a request to get through. Welcome to the SWAMP, which is really an ocean.

I have no real faith that we will see meaningful change for staff to prevent it. There are those who have ideas, and they see this as their turf now, so how dare you walk on their grass? Look, when people get to Washington, they see it as their achievement. They are not there to listen to us, the scum of the earth.

Crash Burn

I cannot convince them about how to actually save the country. They are part of this crash and burn. My role is not to prevent it but to perhaps guide the recovery. But they will NEVER listen to me to prevent anything. They cannot see beyond the tip of their nose.

We are on our own –

DO NOT FORGET THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish Trump all the best. But his staff have him in a bubble already.

The Assholes Here to Undermine Civilization


Posted originally on Jan 12, 2025 by Martin Armstrong 

History Repeat Copy

QUESTION: Why will people not listen to you? You warned that we were turning not to global warming but to cooling and that the reduction of supply of energy would lead to hardship, disease, and war. Here is Britain, the gas company informed us that they are running out of fuel because it has been so cold. You offer historical data to provide the answer. Others provide nothing but wild opinions based on gossip. I am not sure what keeps you going. I supposed if I was ignored, I would say stuff it, you are on your own.

MV

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ANSWER: I cannot disagree. It does get frustrating. It reminds me of my favorite cartoon. I moved to Florida (1) with no state income tax and (2) to get closer to real global warming. My father’s law partner had told me to get out of New Jersey and, if I died there, tell my family to drag my body across the river before they told anyone. The politics of Democratic states has destroyed those societies and this will most likely lead to serious civil uprisings, as you will also see in Britain and Europe.

Milgram Looking at Sky

This nonsense of global warming reminds me of Stanley Milgram’s experiments. When he put a a few people on the street and they just stared upward into the sky, a crown would form trying to see what they were looking at. Just one people people would walk by. They were looking for nothing, and that is what has taken place. Gee – it was warmer today than when I was a kid, so we MUST be causing that to happen with fossil fuels. No evidence has EVER been supported. Even Cicero wrote about the pollution in Rome; when you burn wood, you release CO2. The first Clean Water Act was by Justinian I in Constantinople in 535AD.

Milgrim

It is beyond my power to prevent anything –

I am here hopefully to point the way out of the Crash & Burn

Civilization Empires Rise Fall Armstrong
The Cycle of Civilization

Civilization rises during warm periods and collapses during cold periods. These people are beyond idiots or morons. No word describes their absolute stupidity. My dogs are more intelligent than these people who push this nonsense. We will go through a significant correction in civilization post-2032, like the fall of Rome. These are the assholes that are here to ensure that happens.

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The DC UniParty and the SSCI Have One Overarching Issue They Will Defend, Support for the Surveillance State


Posted originally on the CTH on January 11, 2025 | Sundance 

Washington DC is creating a surveillance state.  We can debate the motives and intentions behind it, but the core of their creation aligns and supports a fully comprehensive American surveillance state.

We cannot be intellectually honest with each other about how the tools of a weaponized government were deployed against Americans, specifically in the example of presidential candidate Donald Trump, without accepting the tools exist for far more consequential reasons than just Donald Trump.

In this segment from April of 2024, Tucker Carlson (motive irrelevant) accurately outlined the purpose of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and how that legislatively created tool is being used by Washington DC, both parties.

Within this monologue Tucker Carlson hits on some accurate points to share with his audience.  The commentary about HPSCI Chairman Mike Turner is spot on accurate.  The IC pressure meetings are also true {SEE HERE}. The analysis of Speaker Mike Johnson also appears to be widely accurate.   WATCH:

My personal experience with the IC surveillance state mirrors that described by Tucker Carlson.  As you step into the world of real data, unfiltered by the systems intended to control our perspectives, the system tends to see you as a threat.

Ongoing research into the dollar-based Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) has made the surveillance system much more visible. All of these systems (Real ID, Digital Identity, Facial Recognition, metadata collection, AI search and result capability, etc.) are eventually going to merge and connect, unless we do something to stop the people who are creating this system.

Previously in 2013, Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz and former Department of Defense Chief of Staff, Kash Patel, appeared on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo to discuss President Donald Trump’s criminal case, the J6 targeting and the use of FISA-702 to conduct political surveillance.

I am prompting the earlier video to 02:20 to focus one aspect of the interview on the 2013 Republican led FISA-702 reauthorization and extension.  I agree with almost everything Mr Patel says about the ramifications of the GOPe House, led by HPSCI Chairman Mike Turner, and the FISA extension.  However, there is also an aspect that 99% of everyone misses, and within that dynamic we become victims to our own willful blindness.  First, watch the segment on FISA-702 (prompted):

To remind….

The CIA director, NSA director, ODNI, FBI Director, etc are not in charge of the compartments they represent. They are simply functionaries -middle men- who operate in the space between where the compass points are directed, where the data originates, and oversight of that data that is ultimately filtered and delivered to the functionaries, who then brief the representatives…. who then create policy… albeit flawed policy…. based on a very specific, controlled, compartmented and skewed information flow. (more)

The value of Kash Patel’s institutional currency is connected to this access, even with Republicans in charge.  The same is true for any other member of the Intelligence Community, including John Ratcliffe, current CIA silo nominee.

As a result, the corrupt DC functionaries operate without any accountability, no corrective action ever takes place, no accountability is metered out, and WORSE…. an oblivious public cheer on people like Kash Patel and many others who give the illusion they are railing against corruption.

For those who choose denial and pretending over the brutal reality, their criticism of me is irrelevant.  The truth exists regardless of our comfort level.

Accepting we are abused victims to professional gaslighting, manipulation and Machiavellian deceit, carried out by those who claim to be our allies, is painful and unnerving.  However, failing to accept the reality only retains our status as victims; we become codependent enablers and battered conservatives.  The surveillance system continues to be assembled and refined. It is a remarkable dynamic.

Many people can now see how DC functionaries played this intelligence game against President Donald Trump, using the false justification of “national security.”  However, those same voices cannot see how we are continually being played by the same defenders of a corrupt system within DC.

Changing the system first begins by awakened people thinking about the long-term ramifications from what is being assembled.  What is the value of national security, when the liberty that secures the values of America is destroyed in the process?

Either the Fourth Amendment means something, or it does not!

Brent Money Details The Fight For The Texas Speaker Of The House


Posted originally on Rumble By Bannons War Room on: Jan 10, 2025 at :7:00 pm EST

CBDC: The End of Money (Movie)


Posted originally on Jan 11, 2025 by Martin Armstrong 

Click the following link to watch the film “CBDC: The End of Money”

Central Bank Digital Currencies are being pushed worldwide by the Bank of International Settlements and governments. Are we witnessing the natural evolution of money into a fully digital form or a pervasive system of social control masquerading as money?

This movie is an in-depth inquiry into CBDCs, digital IDs, the origins of Bitcoin, and the tokenization of all people, objects, and assets worldwide.

Bannon: “All Bushes And Bush Related People, You Suck”


Posted originally on Rumble By Charlie Kirk show on: Dec 28, 2024 at 6:00 pm EST

Polls Against Scholz


Posted originally on Jan 10, 2025 by Martin Armstrong 

Scholz

The next German election will be held on February 23, and if recent polls are of any indication, Chancellor Olaf Scholz may be out of work. The Social Democrats (SPD) are part of a global trend of political parties that have pushed their nations so far to the left that the people are voting to the right.

Bild newspaper believed SPD’s favorability declined one point to 15.5% since December. The Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and sister party the Christian Social Union (CDU) are leading the polls at 31%. The Alternative for Germany (AfD) Party rose in popularity by one percentage point to 21.5%.

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The Greens did see a 1.5 percentage point rise but they are only standing at 13.5% favorability, which marks their highest support level since 2023. All other parties are beneath the 5% level as people are completely done with the direction of the left.

Open borders, climate change, the woke agenda, and endless wars have pushed citizens worldwide to a breaking point. Progressive policies have failed. We saw the celebrated shift in Italy when Giorgia Meloni and the Brothers of Italy Party took office in 2022. Marine Le Pen of France won a majority of seats with the National Rally. The Netherlands saw Geert Wilders’ Party of Freedom win a large portion of seats in the House of Representative. The tide is shifting across Europe.

The German government basically collapsed under Scholz’s watch. He left a massive hole in their budget and sacrificed economic sovereignty for Brussels. The left also lost America’s protection of Germany now that Biden is leaving office. The left is simply losing internationally as the people can no longer tolerate the failing Marxist agenda.

We had a directional change in 2024 and should see a recession sharply into 2026 into 2028. Marxism should end in Europe by 2037 but it will be a long road to get there. In the short term, all incoming governments will be forced to undo the mistakes of prior regimes while accepting that some of the damage cannot be undone.