The Conflict of Law – USA/England v Europe


 

Vattel Emer de (1714 – 1767)

COMMENT: I believe you are wrong about the meaning of natural born citizen in you blog Does it Matter If You Are Born Outside USA to be President? You are a natural born citizen only if BOTH parents are citizens.

REPLY: The site you refer to notes the definition which comes from Emer de Vattel (1714 – 1767) who was a Swiss philosopher, diplomat. Those who were trying to make arguments against Obama were relying upon Vattel because it suited their desired result. Vattel’s definition was in his 1758 “the Law of Nations”:

Book I, Chapter 19, section 212, is “Of the citizens and naturals”

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

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This is all fine and good. However, there is a conflict of law between the English “Common Law” and the law of Continental Europe. This is taught in the very first semester of law.  Emer de Vattel was NOT any real influence in establishing the US Constitution. That distinction goes to William Blackstone (1723-1780).  Blackstone wrote the Commentaries On The Laws Of England. This is what the framers of the Constitution relied upon for here is the interpretation that the Supreme Court will turn to – Blackstone not Vattel.

Commentaries 1:354, 357–58, 361–62.

When I say, that an alien is one who is born out of the king’s dominions, or allegiance, this also must be understood with some restrictions. The common law indeed stood absolutely so; with only a very few exceptions: so that a particular act of parliament became necessary after the restoration, for the naturalization of children of his majesty’s English subjects, born in foreign countries during the late troubles. And this maxim of the law proceeded upon a general principle, that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once. Yet the children of the king’s ambassadors born abroad were always held to be natural subjects: for as the father, though in a foreign country, owes not even a local allegiance to the prince to whom he is sent; so, with regard to the son also, he was held (by a kind of postliminium) to be born under the king of England’s allegiance, represented by his father, the ambassador. To encourage also foreign commerce, it was enacted by statute 25 Edw. III. st. 2. that all children born abroad, provided both their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance to the king, and the mother had passed the seas by her husband’s consent, might inherit as if born in England: and accordingly it hath been so adjudged in behalf of merchants. But by several more modern statutes these restrictions are still farther taken off: so that all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.

The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is an alien.

Those who relied upon Vattel to support their argument that Obama was not a natural born citizen simply were looking for someone to agree with them. Then McCain would not qualify either or anyone born to an ambassador while posted overseas or a child of someone in the military stationed overseas. Even in the tax code, Canadians with one single American parent born in Canada were all being sent notices from the IRS that they owed taxes in Washington because they were citizens. I had a friend in Switzerland who married an American girl and they had a son. When he was 13, they took him to the bank to open his first account. The bank refused to allow the child to open an account because he was an American and they would have to report under FATCA to the USA everything he did.

The definition is clearly different from that of Continental Europe. You could have applied for an EU passport even as an American if your grandfather was born in Europe. If your grandmother was born there instead of your grandfather, you were not eligible. The right to citizenship only followed the male line – not the mother.

There is a huge conflict of laws between USA/UK and that of European which is based upon Canon Law from the Catholic Church. Under the Common Law (USA/UK), the only privilege is that a wife cannot testify against her husband. They can force your children to testify against you. Under Continental Law, nobody in your family can testify against you even a brother or sister-in-law – NOBODY. There are those who argue it is time to change that as well

Freedom Caucus & Big Bang


Freedom Caucus

I have been warning that we are headed directly into the collapse of socialism; not capitalism, simply because politicians have been bribing people’s votes with all sorts of promises they never planned on providing. Social Security may have began as a good idea, but then the money was really just a tax and the fund was stuffed with government bonds denying the average person the very right to invest for his future as do the “rich” who make most money from investment – not wages.

The core of that crash and burn in socialism is pensions. The scheme of pensions when blended with politics is a lethal combination. Politicians are NEVER prosecuted for fraud. Had any employer promise what politicians did and then engaged in every scheme to circumvent it, they would be in prison or hung by a mob in the good old days of social justice. Today, we have politicians who are just so dishonest and they constantly feed the flames of class warfare to divert any responsibility for what they have done.

Examples are surfacing from every corner. In Ohio, beginning in 2019, retired cops and firefighters will no longer receive health care benefits through the Ohio Police & Firefighters Pension Fund. Instead will receive a stipend to buy coverage on the open market. Why? Because the stipend can be fixed, whereas health care costs keep going up more than 5% annually with no end in sight. Health care is bankrupting the economy and is totally out of control.

The Freedom Caucus, also known as the House Freedom Caucus, is a congressional caucus consisting of conservative and libertarian Republican members of the United States House of Representatives. It was the Freedom Caucus, that brought down John Boehner as the leader of the Republicans. They were the ones constantly blocking the increase in a debt ceiling. It was the Freedom Caucus who stopped the repeal of Obamacare, not because they agreed with it, but because they are ultra conservative trying to stop any new debt. Trump responded: “The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don’t get on the team, & fast,” in a tweet. He continued: “We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!”

BIG BANG ECM 2015.75

Big Bang began in 2015.75, with the peak in government and everything has been turning down rapidly ever since with interest rates rising. Even Trump won the presidency effectively as a third party candidate from within the Republican Party. Nothing like that has ever happened in American Politics. Everywhere we look we see the world headed into more chaos with BREXIT and political insanity in Europe, to China regulating Bitcoin to stop the capital outflows.

The Freedom Caucus is out in never-never-land. While yes we are dealing with a debt crisis, their solution of blocking the debt ceiling increases and repealing Obamacare is frivolous. Why? Because it is just totally impractical. To block any increase in debt is to invite Big Bang, social unrest, and the high probability that the USA will be pushed into civil war (Special Report to be published soon). These types of measures will accomplish only bloodshed. We must begin the process of restructuring the entire system. Blocking payments and new debt is inviting the confrontation. It is not a realistic solution.

It is now just a question of when with Big Bang set in motion, when will the whole Socialistic mess erupt and how will the markets respond? We will be looking at Big Bang and how to Trade a Vertical Market at the Hong Kong World Economic Conference in May

The Media Is Ignoring the 500-Pound Surveillance Elephant in the Room


Julian Assange told use from the begging that he got the information from leaks not the Russians; now who are you going to believe Obama that lied about just about everything he did i.e. ObamaCare or Assange who has never been caught in a lie.

11 killed, 45 injured in St. Petersburg Metro blast (GRAPHIC IMAGES)


When we will lean that you can not have Muslims in your country.

Donna Brazile Now Claims WikiLeaks’ DNC Emails “Bogus” After Admitting She Lied


How did all these incompetent people get into positions of power. Oh its politics and they are mostly attorneys, and its no secret what attorneys are.

REP. MAXINE WATERS (D-CA) NAMED ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS


Well she is a Demorat so its not surprising

HIGH-PROFILE N. KOREAN DEFECTOR: KIM JONG-UN WILLING TO STRIKE U.S. WITH NUCLEAR-TIPPED ICBM


The North Koreans have been allowed to do what ever they want for at least the past 26 years so does anyone think their are going to stop now.

*(FROM THE RELIGION OF PEACE) – SHOCK: SOMALI MIGRANT CHARGED WITH RAPING TWO DISABLED GERMAN MEN, MURDERING VICTIM’S ELDERLY WIFE


In you bring a viper into your home don’t be surprised when it bites you and you die.

THE MARCH AGAINST MUSLIM IMMIGRATION . . .


If the Government brings Muslims in than the government must go!

SUSAN RICE Helped Obama Illegally UNMASK Trump Transition Team[NEW DETAILS]!!!


It would be nice if some of the Obama team did time in federal prison but be know that like Hillary got away with what she did so will the rest of the Obama minions.