Why Can We Still Not Talk About Natural Immunity? – #060 – Stay Free With Russell Brand


Natural immunity is always the best.

Why I didn’t get the Jab


When I was in the Army and after a lot of training becoming a Green Beret I found myself in Vietnam in 1967, we took anti-malaria pills which were an older version of today’s Hydroxychloroquine. Obviously, we did not die from taking it and even today, it’s still taken in the regions where malaria is prevalent. . 

In 2020 after the SARS-COVID-2 pandemic started I had just finished reading a book on the 1918 pandemic written by John M. Barry titled “The Great Influenza.” So when the COVID Task Force medical team recommended lock downs to slow the spread and banned the use of Hydroxychloroquine as dangerous I knew something was off and I started do more research on pandemics.

One of the reasons beside what was in the previous paragraph was in my prior research in the mid 90’s about the Vietnam war I was in where I found how badly it was bunged by the Federal Government. So I had a distrust of things governmental from that point on.

Continuing, there was a lot of medical information on pandemics besides the book I just read and every Doctor in that field was saying that lock downs and masks will not work. Most all of those links quickly disappeared. Then the use of Ivermectin was also banded despite being used by Front Line doctors successfully as a prophylactic.

The CDC and NIH claimed that studies showed that neither Hydroxychloroquine nor Ivermectin were of any help in treating the COVID virus. So both were banded from use and Doctors could lose their medical license if they prescribed it.

I was involved in a major project that was outdoors in 2020 which required me to be there and so based on none of what the government was saying was true and I never got the flue I almost never got the annual flu shot. But as a precaution, I did buy a UV/HEPA filter device to circulate the air in by home to kill the virtues, if it got in. While working outside I did not wear a mask and only did so if a place I was going into required it. I was also able to purchase some Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin just in case, I caught the COVID.

Continuing the story, Dr. Fauci was very against the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin as a prophylactic and was a promoter of the use of masks. This made no sense to me. Why would the government be preventing the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin when they both worked if started when the first signs of the COVID started?

The reason was that Dr. Fauci was working with big pharma on a new treatment an mRNA experimental drug and all efforts were to get this approved as quickly as possible so we could stop the pandemic. By running tasks in parallel instead of sequential, the development time was shortened and the first batches of the experimental drug were coming out. And it was quickly made mandatory to get the experimental drug, now called the Jab. Oh and I need to add that that the CDC changed the definition of a Vaccine so they could call the experiments gene therapy a Vaccine.

As the “vaccine” roll out preceded the method used also made no sense. Since by now we knew that it was really only a problem for the elderly or others with existing comorbidity issues like being overweight. Other than those people, a large number of people that got the COVID were sick for a few days and then were fine. Note these people then had “natural” immunity to COVID which is superior to the JAB.

The question now is in 2023 why was this experimental Gene therapy mandated, why were the drug companies given immunity by the federal government, Why were, now well know, problems with the Jab hidden and lastly why were the methods used to try and vaccinate everyone the worst possible method to use according to almost all the world’s top researchers, in this filed, including the inventor of the mRNA process. 

We now know that there is a host of problems with the COVID “vaccine” and that these problems are so great, many resulting in death that it are getting hard to hide them. It seems clear to me that “mandating” the use of this mRNA experimental drug is a clear violation of the Nuremberg Code that resulted from the German doctors during WW II experimenting on persons detained by the Nazis. These experiments were such that death of the subject was often the result. The key point was that it was not ethical to force a person to take an experimental drug or any other substance or procedure. The Nuremberg Code was developed and issued in August 1947. However, it wasn’t until much later that it was officially adopted. From Wikipedia we have the following.

 However, the Code is considered by some to be the most important document in the history of clinical research ethics, because of its massive influence on global human rights. In the United States, the Code and the related Declaration of Helsinki influenced the drafting of regulations promulgated by the United States Department of Health and Human Services to ensure ethical treatment of human research subjects, known as the Common Rule, which is now codified in Part 46 of Title 45 of the Code of Federal Regulations. These regulations are enforced by Institutional Review Boards (IRBs). In 1966, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights was adopted by the United Nations, and after enough nations had ratified the Covenant, it came into force on 23 March 1976. Article Seven prohibits experiments conducted without the “free consent to medical or scientific experimentation” of the subject. As of September 2019, the Covenant has 173 states parties.

This now brings us to Dr. Fauci, who blocked the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin because he claimed they did not work and were of no help in treating the COVID virus. So both were banded from use and Doctors could lose their medical license if they prescribed it.

The question then is why was this done since both are, generic drugs used all over the world for many things. The normal procedure when there is no treatment for a new illness is for the treating doctors to use their knowledge to try existing drugs to see if they work. 

After reading Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s book “The real Anthony Fauci”, I found the reason. The reason was that to use an experimental Drug of any kind on the public, there could not be any other possible treatment available. The mRNA experimental drug was worse than a normal new drug or process it was something that has never been used before on Humans. And on rats, they all died when exposed to the outside environment.

Now since Fauci knew that he couldn’t use the mRNA if there was a treatment so he he had to block the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with the threat losing you medical license if you did. So given that Fauci knew the mRA should not have been used and especially mandated. That bock of a viable treatment cost the lives of millions of people which are a clear crime against humanity; he probably has more blood on his hands than anyone else that ever lived.

Closing Note

I did eventually get a variant of the SARS-COVID-2 in the spring of 2022, After taking the Ivermectin for 7 days is was gone and there were only a couple of days where I was uncomfortable I was 81 years old at the time.

Lancet Joins the Fake News Crowd?


Armstrong Economics Blog/Press Re-Posted Jan 17, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

04:22

COMMENT: I think fake news is global and it definitely appears to be some sort of international manipulation of society. Here in Germany, it might be worse than there across the pond. We have fake news over COVID, now hiding the vaccine injury crisis. The press has its agenda. I guess they are like the North Korean military. They get free food so they lie and oppress everyone else.

I don’t see this is going to ever change. You are right. We simply have to crash and burn for these people will never report the truth. It always comes down to them against us. You are the legend and you have paid the price for that title.

Best wishes, always.

Hans

PS Dubai may be the only place we can all get together again. Think about it!

As pointed out by Norman Fenton and Martin Neil, The LANCET appears to have lost its reputation for independence and joined the crowd over COVID and fake news. As they pointed out in this article, on May 6th, 2021 “The Lancet published a blatantly flawed study of the effectiveness of the Pfizer covid vaccine on the population of Israel, claiming it was 95% effective.” Then on May 17th, 2021, Fenton and Neil submitted a rapid response 250-word letter explaining why the study was flawed. The LANCET refused to even publish their letter to the editor.

I did not get vaccinated BECAUSE I have worked with governments around the world. I have been called into just about every crisis since 1985 BECAUSE I understand the game, which is all wordsmithing. Once the government began pushing the COVID vaccines and locked down the world, knowing how politics works, I decided to hunker down and refused to get vaccinated for ONE MAJOR REASON! Once the government crossed that line and became authoritarian using COVID, I knew that there would NEVER be any accountability whatsoever. Now that people have been seriously injured by these vaccines, the government will continue to call it a conspiracy theory for they will NEVER admit a mistake or that they were bribed.

I was NEVER anti-Vax. My children got all the normal vaccines. Once in a while, I would take the flu shot. I know someone who thought he was getting a flu shot and they gave him the COVID vaccine and he became seriously ill. A lawyer I know took the vaccine so he could travel, got the blood clots, and now cannot fly. Now as the elite fly to DAVOS, they want only pilots who were NOT vaccinated.

The major medical industry has failed society. My doctor retired and a new younger doctor took over his practice. He asked me if I was vaccinated. I responded resoundingly – NO! He responded GOOD!. I suggest if your doctor just follows the crowd and the government, get someone else.

Schwab & Soros Not at DAVOS (Good News?)


Armstrong Economics Blog/WEF Re-Posted Jan 16, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

COMMENT: The internet is going viral with Schwab and Soros pulling out of the Davos WEF. Is this true and if so what are your thoughts on the reason.
Cheers,
MB

REPLY: Soros typically is not part of the WEF at Davos. He sets up a booth outside the official event. He does not speak there nor is he on stage very often. He claims a scheduling conflict. The rumor is all the hate mail directed at both of them. I would not buy that one. Schwab is apparently sick. I can confirm that he supposedly took the vaccination. Let’s see how that shapes up. He was not attending the opening ceremony. Both of then are pushing it and their days are numbered.

Cautiously Optimistic – The House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government


Posted originally on the CTH on January 17, 2023 | sundance 

Communication, discussion and step-by-step outlining is a very time-consuming enterprise.  If you are wondering about the light CTH posting recently, refer to the prior sentence.  I cannot say much; except to say no one is more cynical than I, and yet there is reason to be cautiously optimistic.

As previously noted, the 118th Congress is expected to authorize a “Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government.”   The subcommittee will fall under the jurisdiction of the House Judiciary Committee led by Chairman Jim Jordan.   Additionally, Thomas Massie (R-KY) is being reported as a representative under consideration for the chairmanship the House subcommittee.

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan and potential House subcommittee Chair Thomas Massie should have a grasp of the scale and scope of the opposition they are about to face.  Assuming they have a fully prepared staff to support them – willing to take on a very consequential investigation; then we begin by first anticipating who will oppose their effort to investigate the “weaponization of government“.   Which is to say everyone!

The defensive apparatus of the DC political system will likely do everything in their power, individually and with collective assistance, to ensure this committee fails.  The stakes are quite high.  As readers here can well attest, DC politics is an institutional system of purposefully created compartmentalized silos.

The compartmented information silos permit plausible deniability, and this collection of weaponized institutions contains career bureaucrats who view their opposition as the American people.

Example – The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), and every Republican member therein, including SSCI Vice-Chairman Marco Rubio, will make it their willfully blind priority to obstruct any investigation that touches on how the intelligence apparatus of the United States government is weaponized against the people.

The SSCI is the institution that facilitated the creation of the National Security State.  Any effort to investigate the outcome of that system will make the House investigators adversarial to their colleagues in the Senate.

Additionally, every executive branch intelligence institution including the DOJ-NSD, FBI, DHS, ODNI, CIA, DoD, DIA, NSC and every sub-agency within their authorities will do anything and everything to block a subcommittee looking into their domestic activity.

A lot of bad decisions have led to really bad things.  DC does not want those bad things discussed.

Every national security justification that exists, and some that have yet to be created by the DOJ National Security Division solely for the expressed interest of blocking this subcommittee, will be deployed.

Every member of the subcommittee and their staff will be under constant surveillance.  Phones will be tapped and tracked, electronic devices monitored, cars and offices bugged, physical surveillance deployed, and top tier officials at every subsidiary agency of the U.S. government will assign investigative groups and contract agents to monitor the activity of the subcommittee and provide weekly updates on their findings.

The White House together with the National Security Council will also backchannel to and from these agencies doing the surveillance.

The intelligence apparatus media will be deployed, and daily leaks from the various agencies to their contact lists in the New York Times, Politico, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC will be in constant two-way communication for narrative assembly and counterpropaganda efforts.

This is the context of opposition to begin thinking about before anything moves forward.

Additionally, the national security state will demand the House investigation take place on their terms.  They will demand secrecy, national security classification and require House subcommittee members to adhere to the Intelligence Community terms for review and discussion of anything.

Each agency will not voluntarily assist or participate in the investigation of any of their conduct.  Every official within every agency will do the same; and they will require legal representation that will be provided to them by Lawfare political operatives skilled in the use of “National Security” and “classified information” as a justification for non-compliance and non-assistance.  A protracted legal battle should be predicted.

Lastly, anticipate Special Counsel Jack Smith using his position to block the House subcommittee from receiving evidence.  The House should anticipate that congressional representatives are already under investigation as a result of the authorities granted to Jack Smith by Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco {Go Deep}.  The White House and all of the executive branch agencies will use the existing Special Counsel to block House investigation. Heck, that looks to be the primary purpose of the appointment.

As a result, expect the House subcommittee members to be under constant threat from the DOJ, via the Special Counsel, specifically from DAG Lisa Monaco, with statements that House subcommittee investigative efforts are “obstructing” a special counsel investigation.  The aforementioned agencies and the Senate intel committee will work with the DOJ to use the Jack Smith special counsel as a shield to block participation with the House subcommittee.

With all of that in mind, what is the successful path forward?

♦ First, everything has to be done in sunlight and maximum transparency, even the planning and organization of the committee construct, purpose and goals.

The committee can have no shadow operations, unknown guiding hands or secrets that can be discovered and then weaponized against the intent.  Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I know DC has little concept of working like this, but you can train yourself to do it.  You have nothing to hide; however, those who are being investigated have everything to hide.  Do not provide them ammunition by retaining secrets that can be weaponized against you.

As Andrew Breitbart said, be open with your secrets.

Your second cousin Alice will be a source for the New York Times to write about the Thanksgiving dinner three years ago when she heard the “N” word or a tasteless joke about something outrageous.  Every member of the committee and staff need to prepare for a dossier completed by the FBI about them and distributed to the government allies in mainstream media.

Security clearances will be leveraged and threatened as a tool of the national security state to stop the secrecy envelope from being opened publicly.  This will happen; so just anticipate it.  When the security clearance of [insert_name_here] is threatened, go to the microphones and tell the public who is doing the threatening, and why.

♦GOALS – The goal needs to be crystal clear to anyone and everyone who would contemplate assisting.  Yes, there needs to be a legislative intent in order to legally formulate the committee; that’s a no-brainer.  However, the ultimate goal should NOT BE accountability on those who may have perpetrated or supported weaponized activity against American Citizens.  The ultimate goal SHOULD BE for maximum public information, transparency and sunlight about the weaponization as it is discovered.

Let us assume the goal is accepted, before moving forward, the subcommittee needs a professional communication strategy in place before the rules, terms and member outlines are structured or made public.

A thoughtful communication strategy so that information can come from the committee to the public without the filtration of a corrupt system that will bend and skew the findings as a weapon against the committee itself.

♦COMMUNICATION PORTAL – Hire a communication staff and set up a website for the sharing of information directly from the committee to the public.  The daily activity of the committee should be shared publicly in granular detail.  The witness names as scheduled, documents requested, everything that involves the committee activity should be known to the general public. This system should be updated at least DAILY, or as information is compiled.

This communication network should also contain a separate staff assigned to solicit, accept and distribute information provided by the public to the subcommittee.  Yes, you read that correctly, the subcommittee website should be able to accept information provided by the public as it relates to the ongoing committee work.

Crowdsource We The People as research leverage against the much more effective Lawfare operations you will face in opposition.  This means a portal where the ‘open source’ information can be delivered by researchers, many of those on the spectrum, who hold deep knowledge of the information and system processes in the silos.

In the past several years, thousands of documents have been retrieved by FOIA and public records investigations.  Hundreds of experts in the granular details of the DHS, FBI, DoD and DOJ-NSD systems have knowledge that can benefit the committee; you just need a way for them to transmit the evidence/information to you.

That ‘open source’ evidence should flow into the committee portal with address sourcing that allows the committee staff to review and locate it independently.  This avoids the predictable counterargument, from the national security state, that Russia (or foreign actors) is feeding disinformation into the committee.

The documentary evidence will mostly be “open source,” extracted and then cross-referenced from within the multiple silo system the national security state uses as a shield. And the origination of the documents will be traceable and easy to duplicate, thereby providing secure provenance.   The internal staff manager for this inbound portal is critical (think former HPSCI Nunes staff).

Documents found by the committee should then be uploaded to the same communication system (website), permitting the public -especially the autists- to review and then cross reference the committee material; ultimately channeling information back into the committee if important dots connect or puzzle pieces clarify.   Think of this as a massive counter lawfare operation with hundreds of Deep State subject matter experts assisting the committee.

Witness transcripts should be uploaded within 36 hours of testimony.  Then let the public do the research, background review and dot connecting from the testimony.  If you build it, they will come.

♦ Next, GO PUBLIC with everything.  Do not use the terms and conditions of the secretive administrative state.  Tell the public what you are finding as you are finding it.  You can share information without violating “sources and methods.”   Schedule a media appearance at the 8pm hour twice weekly with a high visibility broadcast media network to provide updates and answer questions.

These scheduled appearances should be in addition to random media press releases and press comments as pertinent information to the subcommittee arrives.   What this means is that you do not wait to produce a 2,000-page final report before releasing the information.  The final report should be an update and summary of all previous findings that have been released to the public along the way.

♦ At the outset, put no rules on media contacts with any subcommittee staff or member.  Counter the darkness that fuels the intelligence community agenda with maximum sunlight and transparency.  Use truth as a weapon against disinformation.  That means no nondisclosure agreements at any part of the process.

Yes, this is radical change in approach, but this is also a radical enemy you are facing.  Playing the secrecy game works in their favor, not yours.  Transparency is your tool, not theirs – use it.

Use truth as a weapon.

Every member of the committee can say anything they want about any of the material or witness testimony they hear during the course of the investigation.  Public hearing or closed-door sessions, it matters not.  The same rule applies.  Committee members are completely free to discuss any findings as the information is reviewed.

The goal should NOT BE accountability on those who may have perpetrated or supported weaponized activity against American Citizens.  The goal SHOULD BE for maximum public information, transparency and sunlight about the weaponization as it is discovered.  This approach makes We The People the accountability portion of the process.  As a result, the next section is again rather groundbreaking….

♦ Every witness to the committee should be granted full legal immunity provided by the House and House Speaker for anything said during the testimony or admitted as being done as part of the evidence fact-finding.  Again, the goal is transparency and openness, not prosecution and accountability.  Use sunlight as a weapon to draw out the truth, then let the American people be the judges of what that truth means when contrasted against the constitution of our nation.

Let me repeat this… There should be ZERO legal liability for any conduct that happened as a part of any witness effort to weaponize the United States government against the American people.  The immunity should cover everything *except* perjury from the witness to the committee itself.   If the witness lies the immunity evaporates.

Why this approach?  Because (a) it circumvents any issues that might impede testimony, removes hurdles; (b) immunity compels confession, honest sunlight and the urgency of the situation; (c) immunity makes the truth more likely; and finally, (d) you are not going to get legal convictions anyway.   The truth has no agenda.

Another reason for the immunity is because the operation of the subcommittee should be heavily focused on witness testimony, not documents.  The documents can come as part of the follow-up to the witness testimony, but it is the witness testimony needed; the publication of the transcripts then provides the public sunlight.  This is key.

90% of the committee work should be focused on witnesses and questions therein.  Only 10% of the committee work should be seeking documents.   Avoiding the documents shortens the time needed for investigative disclosures and avoids protracted legal battles therein.  If the people on the committee, those who are asking the questions, do not already know the details behind the questions and the locations of the supportive documents, then you have the wrong people on the committee.

Every response to a questioned witness should come with the following question: “how do you know this?”   That is how you will discover the nature of the documents, communications, emails etc that support the fact-finding mission.  “How do you know this” also leads to more witnesses.  Work the issue from the bottom up.   How do you know this; who told you this; why did you do this; what authority guided you; who authorized this approach? etc. etc. etc.

Use fully immunized witnesses to tell the story, then go look for the documents to corroborate the witness statements using the ‘under oath’ transcript as part of the impenetrable subpoena itself; but don’t wait, keep questioning witnesses.

DOCUMENTS – Once you identify the location of documents that would assist the sunlight objective, don’t only rely on the government side of the conversation as the targeted source for retrieval.  If the document contains communication to external parties, ie public-private partnership, then move to gain the documents from the private side, thereby avoiding the roadblocks inside government.

Regardless of the status of the document search, and regardless of whether legal battles will be needed to retrieve those documents, keep moving forward with the witness testimony.  Do not stop committee work just because internal silo opposition is being fought.  Keep working the plan and bringing immunized witnesses, both inside government and outside government, forward for questioning.  Leaders within organizations and agencies are important, but clerks, staff, and administrative aides in/around those same leaders could also provide important information.

This subcommittee approach, along with the people needed, will obviously take more time to assemble.  However, once put together everything thereafter moves at a very rapid pace, which is also part of the strategy.  Flood the information zone with maximum sunlight and keep the opposition off balance.

The goal is sunlight. Rip the Band-Aid off, call the baby ugly and start the process to fix this crap by exposing it. Restore the First and Fourth Amendments and heal the injury.

From the Church Commission we got the secret FISA court and more tools for violations of our Fourth Amendment rights.  From the 911 Commission we got The Patriot Act, DHS, TSA, DNI and many more violations of our rights and Fourth Amendment protections.   We do not need any legislation as an outcome of the House “Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government.”

We do not need your legislative help.  All prior legislative help only ended up making things worse.

What we need is a full, uncensored, brutally honest expose’ of how bad things have become and how that system can be dismantled.  The existing constitution is the protection, just remove the stuff that is violating it.

I know this approach is rather different from the norm.  However, if this roadmap seems reasonable, I am certain you will find support from within the silo system that is currently operating, and from people outside the government who will volunteer time and effort to assist.

Summarized: (1) Know the scale of opposition.  (2) Formulate a communication strategy around it & build a website. (3)  Communicate findings by telling the story to the American people as it is discovered. (4) Grant immunity to all witnesses. (5) Don’t wait until the end to generate another useless report that few will read. (6) Make sunlight the motive of the committee. (7) Consider success when the American people can see the problem.  (8) Dissolve any weaponized systems.  (9) Don’t create new ones.

If you tell us the truth, We The People will fix it ourselves.

Tucker Carlson Outlines How the National Security State is Superseding Elections by Controlling Politicians


Posted originally on the CTH on January 17, 2023 | sundance 

During his opening monologue last night, Fox News host Tucker Carlson hit on an important aspect to the classified document saga. The professional bureaucracy within Washington DC is now the superseding agency controlling the outcomes of elections.

Unnamed and opaque officials within the DHS and FBI manipulated the 2020 election by controlling the public conversation. Then, after the election takes place, the similarly mined administrative state employees, then begin using their control systems to manipulate the policy outcomes of the politicians. In essence, the desires of the voters are irrelevant to the permanent bureaucratic state in Washington DC. WATCH:

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Neil Oliver Interviews Dr. John Campbell About the “Breakdown of Trust” Toward the Medical Establishment Due to COVID-19 Vaccines


Posted originally on the CTH on January 16, 2023 | sundance

Another great albeit lengthy interview for consideration.  U.K. political pundit Neil Oliver interviews Dr. John Campbell amid a “knowing what you know now”.. type outlook and discussion over the current status of the COVID-19 vaccination protocol.

In the arc of his pandemic discussion and evaluation, Dr Campbell is now in facing considerable discomfort as he outlines the “lost trust” in the healthcare industry, as an outcome of manipulated science.  This has been a painful journey for John Campbell as he outlines in the interview.  Dr. Campbell himself took two doses of the mRNA vaccine, based on the professional advice of the industry.  However, as he states in the interview, he can no longer assert his belief in the science that led him to his original decision, and given what he knows now, he would not have taken the vaccine.  WATCH (prompted):

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A conversation following the journey of a pragmatic believer down the path to uncomfortable cynicism.

Ukraine Weighs BAKHMUT Retreat Due To RUSSIAN Offensive


The Dive With Jackson Hinkle Streamed on: Jan 15, 11:07 pm EST

WEF SPECIAL: The Most Terrifying Event Of 2023 – #059 – Stay Free With Russell Brand


Davos, the world’s most terrifying event is back! And we’re celebrating with a bumper 3 hour WEF extravaganza – with everything you need to know about Davos 2023, including some very special guests and all the major talking points from Davos as it happens. Join us… and you’ll be happy!

Roman Gods & Religion Was Not as it Might Seem


Armstrong Blog/Ancient History Re-Posted Jan 16, 2023 by Martin Armstrong

QUESTION: You mentioned that Rome actually believed in the freedom of religion. I am correct then that the multitude of gods was the result of that? And you are saying they were not pagans in the sense that the Christians portrayed?

GH

ANSWER: Yes. They allowed all their conquered states to worship whoever they believed. Yet the fascinating thing is that these were more like Christians envisioned saints insofar as each was in charge of something. The Romans believed in an afterlife, but they did not believe that all these “gods” were actually those who created them. For example, you would go to Posiden if you were Greek to plead for a safe voyage and if you were Roman you would go to Neptune. Neptune is the Roman sea and freshwater god, while Poseidon is the Greek god of the sea. So there were subtle differences where Neptune was in charge of even lakes while the Greek Poseidon looked over the sea exclusively.

Here is a rare coin of Philip I (244-249AD) struck in Phrygia. The Reverse shows the story of Noah with his wife emerging from the famous Ark. This coin was sold at auction by Leu Numismatik AG in Winterthur, Switzerland for 240,000 Swiss francs. Even the story of Jesus was not so strange for Zeus was said to have sent his son to earth to help mankind. His name was Hercules.

The Christians called everyone else pagans. But these various “gods” were never seen as the person who created the earth and humans.  Athena was merely the “goddess” who was the protector of Athens. She did not create the world or humans. So the definition of what was a “pagan” is not exactly as the early Christians presented. This is also why so many then converted to Christianity for those to whom they prayed were never seen as the “almighty” for created everything.